Questions about my first ritual.

[Aeiouoiea]

I am new here and this is my first post. I wanted to ask some advice on how to make a magical ritual more effective. I am planning my first serious ritual in April 2016. My plan is to use this ritual to attract a women who I like, yet for certain circumstances doesn't reciprocate. I don't think that this is too farfetched of a goal whatsoever. I met this woman at a store I worked at, and she would always buy bags of corn (to feed her animals). The store also took donations of clothing and one time this woman donated a bag of her old underwear... one pair of which I took!

Anyway, this idea kinda just came to me and I would love to hear some feedback: I created a sigil with my desire. I also wrote my specific desires into a paragraph. Then I changed the paragraph into an anagram, completely changing the original meaning of my intent and making almost a bizarre poem out of it. I will buy a bag of corn and make a circle out of it, facing the east and illuminated with candles, I will look into the sigil (thinking of the emotions I feel for her) until it begins shimmering. Once that happens, I will prick my ring finger of my left hand using the thorn of a rose and place some blood onto the sigil. I will read my poem and then set fire to the sigil and poem. I plan on collecting the ashes and taking it to some cross-roads by my house. In the middle of these cross-roads lies an old cemetery. I will then release the ashes into the air at the center of the cross-roads. This will occur on a new-moon, and one moon cycle away from when I make my move to woo her.

My questions are:
#1 overall how does this sound to you more experienced magicians?
#2 is there anything I am doing wrong or could do better?
#3 how can I incorporate her underwear into the ritual?


Thank you all so much!

[WillowDarkWytch]

Motumbá Àse

My questions are:
#1 overall how does this sound to you more experienced magicians?
#2 is there anything I am doing wrong or could do better?
#3 how can I incorporate her underwear into the ritual?

1. Maybe too complicated. You could do it simpler
2. I would change the ritual. Sigils and blood are not necesary. Why is the corn? I wouldn't use a rose thorn. But are subjetive things that I'd change, things I WOULDN'T use, it's not like uou CAN'T use.
3. Tie it, do knots on it and keep it with you.

This is what I would do:

1. Divination to see if there are real chances that using magic would do something. There are things that are just not gonna be in this life time, or they won't last or will bring you pain. Don't take it as "karma" if you don't want to, but as "the result will be benefical for me" or "the result well be damaging for me". SO, first, do divination.
2. If divination goes "ok, do it" then I would do some cleasing rituals. Take some cleasing baths to take all negative charge that might be on you. That you do on waning moon. Then take love baths, atraction baths, etc. That might be on the day after of the black moon, lets say when it's waxing and you just can see a little thin light. You can prepare the space, create the circle if you want, use corn flour mixed with brown sugar, maybe with rose petals and some sweet perfume or flower essence. Conjure Undines, they go well in meddling into peoples feelings and subconcious. Take the underwear and tie 9 knots. Each knot you conjure your desire and what sh will feel about you. Feel the energy, stay there until you release the energy. When you are done, colect the flour, the petals, etc. dispatch in open crossroads (may be that of the cemetery). Keep the underwear under your mattress, not in the flor, directly under the mattress. Don't untie it.
3. Give three weeks to see how it goes, if it goes well, do a little enchantment on yourself, atraction baths, keep it simple. If after 3 weeks goes too slow or nothing has happened, take a psychic cleansing bath and after that another love, sex or atraction bath. Summon the undines again, take the knotted underwear, springle some waters and perfume while chanting or talking with undines. Don't untie the underwear, just recharge it. Here you may mark each knot with your blood if you want to. And you go another week and see what happens.
4. When you get her, you bury the underwear in your backyard or in a plant or flower pot, but always in your house.

This looks complicated but actually it's very simple. You have to do it with intent but not to hard, not forcing it, more like flowing and loving.

If she doesnt come, maybe you should take another aproach to love life and do some rituals to bring someone that's good for you. Not everything we want we get with magic. If you want HER, do it but don't get fixed neither.

I hope you may take something from this and be useful for you.

Saravá
Idansinají

[Aeiouoiea]

Thank you for that. To answer your question about the corn: I figured it would be something mutual that use to connect us. If not for the corn, we would never have met or interacted. Also I am not quite sure how to "tie knots into the underwear"; there is not much to work with there. However I was thinking of untying a knotted piece of rope inside the circle during the ritual, so it is interesting that you mentioned knots.

I had played around with sigil magic once before trying to obtain her and I believe that it worked... as in everything aligned perfectly, yet I was new to magic at the time and didn't realize I had to act on it, when the time was right. I am going to try again. Thanks again for your input.

[Hadit]

Holy shit. You took her underwear?

[Aeiouoiea]

Holy shit. You took her underwear?

Yes.

[sikander]

Small tip, since knots were brought in the discussion: tie her panties together with your own underwear using a red or pink string, depending on your intent. Just as a reminder red-passion, pink-love. You could also use a blue string to symbolize feelings. Make 3 knots. If you choose to use this method, I would also recommend that you use a candle the color of the string.

Another tip is to have Venus in Pisces as it it now, or in Taurus, some time later and avoid it being enolved in hard aspects.

I wish your intent will materialize fast!

[sikander]

Holy shit. You took her underwear?

The more appropriate question would be how can someone donate their OLD underwear )

[WillowDarkWytch]

Small tip, since knots were brought in the discussion: tie her panties together with your own underwear using a red or pink string, depending on your intent. Just as a reminder red-passion, pink-love. You could also use a blue string to symbolize feelings. Make 3 knots. If you choose to use this method, I would also recommend that you use a candle the color of the string.

Another tip is to have Venus in Pisces as it it now, or in Taurus, some time later and avoid it being enolved in hard aspects.

I like that.

The more appropriate question would be how can someone donate their OLD underwear )

LOL I thought the same!!!! Hahahaha

[Hadit]

The whole thing is very 1980s stalker movie! Especially with the lusty satanic blood ritual!

[Aeiouoiea]

Another tip is to have Venus in Pisces as it it now, or in Taurus, some time later and avoid it being enolved in hard aspects.

Thank you sikander for those tips. What exactly is the significance of having Venus in Taurus or Pisces and what do you mean by "hard aspects"? I plan on making an advance with her on May 6th, in which Venus will in fact be in Taurus, is this going to have any effect?

Thanks again for your patience...

[sikander]

Another tip is to have Venus in Pisces as it it now, or in Taurus, some time later and avoid it being enolved in hard aspects.

Thank you sikander for those tips. What exactly is the significance of having Venus in Taurus or Pisces and what do you mean by "hard aspects"? I plan on making an advance with her on May 6th, in which Venus will in fact be in Taurus, is this going to have any effect?

Thanks again for your patience...

Each planet has its domicile in one (or two) zodiac signs. Venus is in domicile in Taurus and in Libra. When for example Venus is in domicile, it's energies are stable and strong. Venus, like the other planets is also in exaltation, and its energy is at full power. Venus is in exaltation in Pisces. When a planet is in falling and in exile, the energy decreases and weakens to a minimum.

By hard aspects I refer to squares oppositions and conjunctions with the likes of Mars, Saturn and Pluto, but I don't think Venus will be having any of those aspects on May 6th. You could look up an astrology chart for that day just to make sure.

As a warning: let's say your ritual succeeds and you get the girl. If she liked you before the ritual, it's OK. If not, it could end up bad for both of you in the future, as her true will will kick in. But I say go for it and see how things will develop

[sikander]

You could do a honey jar to attract love with no specific target, while Venus is still in Pisces, to increase your chances over the next few months.

Then move in with the specific ritual on your chosen date.

You'll find all you need in this video

https://youtu.be/uTPSLMCrZik

[CCoburn]

I won't comment on the underwear, I think that's been covered enough already.

Based on what I know, the only things I could add are:
Amber, Emerald, or Yellowish Green would be good choices for candle color, and even for other ritual elements.
Definitely the rose petals as WDW said. I actually use the whole rose with the leaves. I stick it on my wall at a 45 degree downward angle(to the right) using candle adhesive.
Also burn some rose fragrance if you want, I think you could also use Benzoin, or Sandalwood.

Cheers

[Aeiouoiea]

As a warning: let's say your ritual succeeds and you get the girl. If she liked you before the ritual, it's OK. If not, it could end up bad for both of you in the future, as her true will will kick in. But I say go for it and see how things will develop

Thank you for explaining that to me. Like I said, I am new to this.

The woman, really did like me a lot. Almost to the point of obsession, yet once I started to reciprocate, she backed off and things got emotional and confusing from there. I am going to proceed with this and make sure to give an update once it happens... but I would still like to view other options on how to go about doing this for maximum effect, before I actually do this.

She also believes that doing things on a new moon helps manifests desires, we talked about this before, and oddly enough we often run into each other on new/full moons.

[Aeiouoiea]

Based on what I know, the only things I could add are:
Amber, Emerald, or Yellowish Green would be good choices for candle color, and even for other ritual elements.
Definitely the rose petals as WDW said. I actually use the whole rose with the leaves. I stick it on my wall at a 45 degree downward angle(to the right) using candle adhesive.
Also burn some rose fragrance if you want, I think you could also use Benzoin, or Sandalwood.

Cheers

So Spida, are you suggesting that my plan is good, but that I should just add in colored candles and incense? What are your view on the circle of corn, the sigil, the cross-roads, the moon-cycle, etc?

[sikander]

As a warning: let's say your ritual succeeds and you get the girl. If she liked you before the ritual, it's OK. If not, it could end up bad for both of you in the future, as her true will will kick in. But I say go for it and see how things will develop

Thank you for explaining that to me. Like I said, I am new to this.

The woman, really did like me a lot. Almost to the point of obsession, yet once I started to reciprocate, she backed off and things got emotional and confusing from there. I am going to proceed with this and make sure to give an update once it happens... but I would still like to view other options on how to go about doing this for maximum effect, before I actually do this.

She also believes that doing things on a new moon helps manifests desires, we talked about this before, and oddly enough we often run into each other on new/full moons.

I know what you mean. I've been through that many years ago. It could be that she's insecure due to some emotional blockages, or it could be that you two weren't meant to be together, like in my case. I won't go into that, because there is much to talk about. I'll just say that it involves your path for this lifetime. Hers too. Let's hope that's not the case.

As for doing the ritual perfect... No ritual is perfect, unless you truly believe it will work, no matter how many items you use. I've had success with a simple sigil on a piece of paper. Also, there are dozens of items which can help in this kind of ritual and there is no need to add them all. I don't think you're gonna get hold of all of them, and you might end up focusing more on finding them than on the end result of the ritual.

This will be your first ritual, but as you progress with your work, you will develop your own style in approaching a certain ritual.

Since you have the New Noon in comon, you could do that ritual then, in the hour of Venus.

Awaiting your results

[CCoburn]

So Spida, are you suggesting that my plan is good, but that I should just add in colored candles and incense? What are your view on the circle of corn, the sigil, the cross-roads, the moon-cycle, etc?

I think you have an elaborate plan.
WDW and some others gave some really good information.
I'm saying you could use Venus as a general theme for your ritual.
Hence the Rose and the colors I mentioned, plus the fragrance.
I have no knowledge of using corn for Venus, only Earth.
Cannabis is associated with Venus, you could smoke some Weed during your Ritual.
Sigils are a good idea, I also print these on paper as Sikander mentioned.
You could even include Sigils for the Spirits, or Intelligence of Venus, for lets say an accompanying Evocation.
I have no experience with some elements of your plan, but it sounds good.

Cheers

[Hadit]

Maybe you could do something really powerful that has an immediate effect on both your subjective realities and the objective world? Like talking to her.

[Maeiv]

I would say that the power in ritualization is most often simply pin point focusing your will in order for you to manipulate the magick around us in every day life. Make sure that every aspect of your ritual has true meaningful symbolism. The blood thing sounds like something out of Hollywood but honestly I wouldn't know. If I were you, I'd take the help everyone is giving you here, as well as do some research on your own, as to how to craft a fitting ritual. What really matters is that your ritual resonates within you, not that you are doing it 'right' or 'wrong'. Then again, I'm a novice as well, and I could be completely wrong, so don't take my word for it unless someone wiser than I agrees. I also quite liked the sigil crafting method described in Liber null, you could pull up the pdf on Google and study it at no charge.

Best of luck

[Aeiouoiea]

After doing some research into the planetary hours and days, I decided that I am probably (unless I am convinced otherwise) going to perform the ritual on April-7th (which is the day of Jupiter) and during the hour of Venus. I am going to make my physical move to woo her exactly one moon cycle later on May-6th (which is the day of Venus) and during the hour of Jupiter.

So:
April-7th = New Moon = Day of Jupiter/Hour of Venus = RITUAL
May-6th = New Moon = Day of Venus /Hour of Jupiter = DAY OF ACTION

[Aeiouoiea]

The blood thing sounds like something out of Hollywood but honestly I wouldn't know.

Aleister Crowley wrote in Magick: Liber Aba, that the blood sacrifice is more effective and that "the truly great magician will be able to use his own blood".

Which is why I decided to use blood, to make the magical operation more efficacious. Thank you Maeiv by the way for responding and lending your advice; much appreciated.

[sikander]

Aleister Crowley wrote in Magick: Liber Aba, that the blood sacrifice is more effective and that "the truly great magician will be able to use his own blood".

Quick warning again: blood magick is indeed VERY powerful, so be sure that you really and I mean REALLY want to be with her, or else you might find it very difficult to end the relationship some time in the future, IF you won't be enjoying it.

This is not to put you off, but only as a caution to take into consideration.

The date and time of the ritual are yours to choose and so are the items and the ways of using them. Do what you feel suits you the most.

I think we've all added some interesting information here and together with what you're gonna find, you'll have all you need to cast the mother of all love spells

Love&peace!