Ars almandel...help
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Ars almandel...help
I just beginner and i has been try 2 pentacle of salomo. Jupiter and mars.
The2nd jupiter, in second try..i got dream, a man come and speak to me dont think a bout money when u work with this pentacle.
The 3rd i saw a blue rain and suck into the pentacle and i look a man like kabbalah symbol man.
I only read the key of salomo. Never read another book.
Last night i dream. There is 3 door with a book uside that.
The first door, ther is a room with ars notoria. I go to inside and i feel my body feel a power. 2nd door is (i forgot the name of as) but i feel the same.
In 3rd door is ars almandel.
I open and enter that, there is flying book, then suddenly a fog came to that book and a man show up.the face and the cloth ia not clear. He speak to me.. what are u offer to me..im shocked and then i pick my pocket, and ahow him a rock, natural rock, i put into ground. The the rock ia move until left 2 things, he pick 2 pears. Then i woke up.
Then i seaching that book...almandel..
What are think about that guys
The2nd jupiter, in second try..i got dream, a man come and speak to me dont think a bout money when u work with this pentacle.
The 3rd i saw a blue rain and suck into the pentacle and i look a man like kabbalah symbol man.
I only read the key of salomo. Never read another book.
Last night i dream. There is 3 door with a book uside that.
The first door, ther is a room with ars notoria. I go to inside and i feel my body feel a power. 2nd door is (i forgot the name of as) but i feel the same.
In 3rd door is ars almandel.
I open and enter that, there is flying book, then suddenly a fog came to that book and a man show up.the face and the cloth ia not clear. He speak to me.. what are u offer to me..im shocked and then i pick my pocket, and ahow him a rock, natural rock, i put into ground. The the rock ia move until left 2 things, he pick 2 pears. Then i woke up.
Then i seaching that book...almandel..
What are think about that guys
Re: Ars almandel...help
It sounds like you have a good handle on recalling your dreams, I would suggest that you work this skill with diligence and scrutiny and you will come a long way. In these early stages if you do not have a very clear understanding of your dream don't worry about it, in fact you should try not to think too hard about it, as you will continue to trick yourself and fill in details that probably didn't actually occur in the dream. As a suggestion (you can come up with your own solution of course!) you should try and create a thoughtform, servitor, or elemental that is happy to assist you during these dreams with clear answers and guidance. Hopefully he can show up in your dreams just as easily as these other entities, and if not you can make a sigil or a word to call him when you are confused. Very interesting dreams tho - I just want to reiterate that when I have had similar experiences, by forgetting about the dream (after writing it down the first time i recalled it, of course), that more "real" or useful insights came to me spontaneously as time went on, and the dream's meanings were more clear.
As far as interpreting the dream, I think I was pretty clear in that I don't think we can do that effectively for you, but if I had to take it literally I would suggest studying the book and everything related to it. You may be very drawn to a system revolved around the invocation of angels
As far as interpreting the dream, I think I was pretty clear in that I don't think we can do that effectively for you, but if I had to take it literally I would suggest studying the book and everything related to it. You may be very drawn to a system revolved around the invocation of angels
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from ur POV that armandel is something about angel ? till now im freaking about the word "what are u offer for me.."fraterai wrote: As far as interpreting the dream, I think I was pretty clear in that I don't think we can do that effectively for you, but if I had to take it literally I would suggest studying the book and everything related to it. You may be very drawn to a system revolved around the invocation of angels
its normal if angel said like that? or its just a test? why show in my dream.....its because im has been using 4 times pentacle? beside im reading in some of site that invocation angel is dangerous...its true?
element? i dont get it....... like spirit?
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Certainly any invocation is dangerous and requires a level of maturity and preparation. From what I understand the Almadel is a little altar or table for use in Solomonic style invocation of Angels. I understand your fear of the offer thing, but its not like your soul was sucked out of your body, you had something, a stone. What do you think the stone represents to you? Material things? Some abstract personal effort? I learned from other (mostly non-western systems) that spirits need to be worked with no matter what, and the fear of "sacrifice" or "pact" is overstated. Most invocations offer incense as a medium of exchange. (im not saying there arn't dangers in making blatant trades of your life or soul or something, but that didnt happen and im not talking about that). There are many magical theories as to what this exchange actually is, from being an quantifiable amount of energy that is transfered to the being, or symbolic of sacrifice and thus a gesture to put the mage in the right state of mind. It is up to you to experiment and decide which you subscribe to, or not. It doesn't really matter. If you felt unsafe, fearful, etc., these are signs that you should either turn away from the entity or show some degree of force in ordering it to chill out.
And if i confused you with the "elemental" im sorry. I just meant you can use your own magic like sigils or spells or familiars to make your dreams more clear and guided. I am a bit confused as to what you want to get out of these talismans. Maybe you need a bit more foundational training in meditation, symbols, astral/magical theories, etc.
And if i confused you with the "elemental" im sorry. I just meant you can use your own magic like sigils or spells or familiars to make your dreams more clear and guided. I am a bit confused as to what you want to get out of these talismans. Maybe you need a bit more foundational training in meditation, symbols, astral/magical theories, etc.
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First time i try to pray to angel is 1 month ago, i look a pray for michael, and see the point of how to pray then i try to pry to raphael, i close my eyes, and i see i man with golden hair, in half body, he look handsome, but he dont said anything, then next weeka, i try difference way, i use 3 candle with sugar and praying for 7 days, to heal my mother....but nothing happen....
Now i dream about almandel, In my dream ne choose a 2 piece of pears, maybe i can u using pears, right?
Another question......if we using pentacle and our wish has been granted, its possible the spirit of that pantacle come to us to ask what we give it to us?
Thanks
Now i dream about almandel, In my dream ne choose a 2 piece of pears, maybe i can u using pears, right?
Another question......if we using pentacle and our wish has been granted, its possible the spirit of that pantacle come to us to ask what we give it to us?
Thanks
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Just from analyzing your approach and goals and what not, I think you are definitely trying to take a "spirit-relationship" approach to your work. You should start to figure out how they are communicating with you, you seem to have clear pictures but you need to practice separating your imagination from true impressions. If you want to work with these angels/spirits/talismans in this way, you should continue the relationship with maybe 1 or 2 for a while until you get the methods down, and you should have the goal at getting better at this practice instead of some specific goal. Developing the relationship will open up the connection you have and hopefully you will get more clear impressions. You can assist the spirits in reaching you by meditating more (specifically a void/no thoughts/thought control meditation) and working on your visualization skills.
As far as utilizing the symbols you receive, you should keep a journal, and over time they will make more sense. You can very easily offer some pears to the angels, and if you continue in this spirit/relationship approach you should definitely try it out. You can draw out the talisman and put a pear over it. Leave it out for a day or so and then burry it. This is a common way to give offerings to spirits. Just say a small statement of intent, like "here is a pear. please give me more information about Almadel and why you showed me this." and focus for a bit on the sigil/talisman. Leave the pear and walk away. Then keep an eye on those dreams
This style of magic is very natural and also very effective, especially when your belief is strong as in your case. the amount of effort required is not much but you need to remember to keep up with it, and that leaves more time for meditation and growing your own personal strength. Let me know what you think or if you need any more suggestions.
As far as utilizing the symbols you receive, you should keep a journal, and over time they will make more sense. You can very easily offer some pears to the angels, and if you continue in this spirit/relationship approach you should definitely try it out. You can draw out the talisman and put a pear over it. Leave it out for a day or so and then burry it. This is a common way to give offerings to spirits. Just say a small statement of intent, like "here is a pear. please give me more information about Almadel and why you showed me this." and focus for a bit on the sigil/talisman. Leave the pear and walk away. Then keep an eye on those dreams

This style of magic is very natural and also very effective, especially when your belief is strong as in your case. the amount of effort required is not much but you need to remember to keep up with it, and that leaves more time for meditation and growing your own personal strength. Let me know what you think or if you need any more suggestions.
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Re: Ars almandel...help
1 weeks ago i drawing ars almandel in my mother rooms, because someone in here ( a prophet in my country) told me that i can use that to banish a bad spirit in my house, my mom is hount for 2 years, and make the nerve in her face become not normal, i think its medical illness but according that prophet because bad spirit in my house.
After i draw ara almandel, and pray to michael, with 2 pears like my dream, and i ask to banish all bad spirit and ask why he told me about ars almandel ( i just guess that he is show in my dream)
Before i sleep i pray to yhwh why show that almandel.
After that, in a dream i heared a voice, its tell me information about almansel, and then like watching movie...twins brother make differences path about magic, white and black.
If i use a arc angel sigil, after finish its better to burn that sigil or keep it?
Thanks
After i draw ara almandel, and pray to michael, with 2 pears like my dream, and i ask to banish all bad spirit and ask why he told me about ars almandel ( i just guess that he is show in my dream)
Before i sleep i pray to yhwh why show that almandel.
After that, in a dream i heared a voice, its tell me information about almansel, and then like watching movie...twins brother make differences path about magic, white and black.
If i use a arc angel sigil, after finish its better to burn that sigil or keep it?
Thanks
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Thanks for following up! Another interesting dream, keep at it, most people have trouble working rituals and then remembering the effects in dreams, but this is really powerful. Keep at it.
As far as sigil, I have found burning it is quite convenient. It's one of the oldest ways to give something energy to to give offerings or energy to spirit world, plus you don't have to think about keeping the sigil on you, destroying it when you are done, etc. for what you are doing I don't think you need talismans, which work by keeping them on you and stuff like just described. Burning the sigil in your ritual with the intent of sending your prayers or energy to the entity is very effective
As far as sigil, I have found burning it is quite convenient. It's one of the oldest ways to give something energy to to give offerings or energy to spirit world, plus you don't have to think about keeping the sigil on you, destroying it when you are done, etc. for what you are doing I don't think you need talismans, which work by keeping them on you and stuff like just described. Burning the sigil in your ritual with the intent of sending your prayers or energy to the entity is very effective
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Can u tell me who is angel who have orb in left hand and book or staff in right hand?
When i focus my mind to looking a clue from my dreaming who is the angel show in my dream 3 time i faild..
I focus to rewind my dream, begun to open a door (like my dream) but suddenly force to kick out until 3 times, in 4th i saw a old man have longwavy white beard in the corner and he shows the number 1 with his finger, then i enter this room again. This time i watch carefully everything that i can see.
When cloud show, i saw white big wings, and a man with orb in left hand, and like book or staff in right hand. Then....again i got force kick out.
I open my eyes, and got dizzy
When i focus my mind to looking a clue from my dreaming who is the angel show in my dream 3 time i faild..
I focus to rewind my dream, begun to open a door (like my dream) but suddenly force to kick out until 3 times, in 4th i saw a old man have longwavy white beard in the corner and he shows the number 1 with his finger, then i enter this room again. This time i watch carefully everything that i can see.
When cloud show, i saw white big wings, and a man with orb in left hand, and like book or staff in right hand. Then....again i got force kick out.
I open my eyes, and got dizzy