Is there such thing as an Astral Temple?

[DarkSchneider]

Given my small room and lack of quality materials to work with (specifically I don't wanna use paraffin candles anymore), I've been improvising by doing what I think is called an Astral Temple. I'm not exactly sure if what I've been doing Astral work by definition but it has been working so far. I've been meditating and achieving a tranquil state of mind that I can use Visualization to in essence make the ideal temple and do my work in there. I've been doing simple tarot readings, casting energy in the form of giant pentagrams and binding negative forces in my life.

Are there any authorities on such a subject? If it's not "Astral" work, is it simply strong visualization?

[Frater Chiasmus]

Though I have not read much of his work, Franz Bardon made the suggestion of an Astral Temple.
The only other references come from Astral texts from authors such as Penczak and more New-Age texts I read.
I do not see anything wrong with the practice as long as one still functions normally in our physical bodies.

[sikander]

There is a book called Ritual Magick Workbook in which there are references to creating your own astral temple. Besides your physical temple in Assiah, you have one in Yetzirah, one in Briah and one in Atziluth. You'll have to discover all of them in a step by step manner. If your concentration is good, you can also perform rituals and cast spells from those temples. You just need to work on visualizing in your mind's eye the best you can and also work on creating a stronger body of light with which you'll be able to experience those temples more realistically.

[Desecrated]

Jason Miller talks about it.
Christopher Penczak has written several books on the subject.

[DarkSchneider]

Thank you for all your kind replies.

I've bookmarked the Ritual Magick Book on Amazon.

I believe in my library I have some Franz Bardon. I will investigate further.

I certainly have a Jason Miller book on my shelf. I will skim through it today.

Christopher Penczak... I'll make note of the author

[Mem]

What work are you doing in there? The post is confusing

[DarkSchneider]

The work that I will do, in such a temple, is my normal ritual routines. I don't have access to the right candles or some tools at the moment. So my intention is to do my general spiritual work in there. When I say for example, I'm using the tarot, I visualize the deck being shuffled and drawing 3 cards. Or if I am simply meditating I picture myself quietly sat upon a throne.

It's basically so I can get used to working without the tools, or candles etc, and I can maintain a normal, rigid routine. I don't want to make any more excuses.

Any work that I would normally do, in the physical world, I try to do in there.

[Mem]

You have memorized the deck to it's entirety? What meditation do you perform astraly?

[DarkSchneider]

I know most of the Rider Waite Tarot. If I forget the context of the card, when I come back out of the astral temple into the physical world, I will consult a book or website. I usually write them down on paper once I come out.

Meditation wise, I will focus on a mantra, and sit. Or I will imagine soft music playing.

[Mem]

Right

[DarkSchneider]

Like I said, the idea is to give me an alternative to working in the physical. If I'm away from home, or I don't have the required materials, I will switch to that method of working. So far it's been successful. I just want to get into the habit of working and I'm wondering if there are any actual books on the subject, which there seem to be.

I've charged symbols, worked with servitors, used the Tarot, channeled energy from the moon to consecrate my talismans in the physical world, etc. I'm pretty satisfied with this method.

[Mem]

What is your aim with all this work if you don't mind me asking?

[DarkSchneider]

Self improvement, relaxation, escaping from the real world, building visualization skills. I find that my magick is more potent when I use visualization. I figure the more I learn to master that, I'll get better as I go along.

My goal as a magician has been to master myself. I've neglected myself for some time, so I'm learning to focus more on these techniques for correcting my thoughts, my behavior and to give me something to do.

[sikander]

@DarkS. Just google Ritual Magick Workbook Pdf and you'll easily find it.

Also, there is no need to have all the tools, or in extreme conditions, to have the right space - I mean, a magician would be able to work rituals butt naked in the middle of nowhere. There is a paragraph in that book that deals with practicing in other places, like hotel rooms, if I remember correctly.

Nevertheless, I congratulate you for tackling such a practice. Most practitioners neglect it, but i think they don't know what they're missing and it will prove beneficial for them.

[DarkSchneider]

@sikander

I'm going to do exactly that.

I'm honored by your kindness, thank you so much

[sikander]

You're very welcome. I recommend you do some pathworking when you get the opportunity, if you haven't done it yet. Here is a simple straight forward ritual template for pathworking. You could skip some preliminary rituals of you haven't began practicing them yet - like the hexagram. It will add a great boost to your visualisation abilities.

http://ananael.blogspot.ro/2016/03/a-si ... l.html?m=1

[Mem]

I like your goal. I think perhaps knowing more of why or how Magick works, makes it work better.

[DarkSchneider]

@Mem

I'm rather young, I'm 24 years old and I've only been practicing for 6 years.

Whatever the case is, if I'm misinformed about this so-called Astral Temple that I've devised, it's been working for me. I identify as an eclectic, abeit an inexperienced one. I resonate with some concepts in chaos magick, though I find it to be a little unfocused. I'm doing the best with what's available to me and my understanding of things.

I'm learning as I go along. I've had a rough few years, in that time, I was practicing magick on and off and dealing with all kinds of struggles.

The whole point of this thread is whether or not I'm going about this the right way. Whatever I call it be it strong visualization or "astral" work, I'm finding it helpful. Perhaps it is ignorant to call it astral work if it doesn't fit the traditional sense of the term. But feel free to give me some elaboration.

[Mem]

I think it is good to have a goal of self-mastery. Different people may have different views of this term i guess. If you know what and why you do what you do with this Work, then that's great. I do wonder though, how many people actually achieve mastery through self-initiation, i read somewhere that it is impossible to do.

edit: i think some people fancy calling eclectics dabblers

[DarkSchneider]

@Mem

Excuse me. You're a terribly unnerving person.

FYI, I'm happy to call myself a eclectic. Call me a "dabbler" if you want, I'd rather follow my own path than some dogma peddler or some elitist "master".

I've no longer any interest in what you have to say.

[Mem]

right

[CCoburn]

An Eclectic is someone who dedicates 6 years of their life,
to master the Guitar. They learn from Jazz, Classical, and
Heavy Metal sources.

A Dabbler is someone who spends a couple days learning
"Smoke On The Water", and then decides they want to play
Keyboards.

When put in proper context, it is an insult to refer to the Eclectic
as a Dabbler.

Peace.

[the_spiral]

Yes, that's a rather silly conflation and I suspect, given the general tone of the exchange, intended to be provocative.

The label of "dabbler" has little to do with one's specific practices and more to do with the depth (or lack thereof) of knowledge and dedication informing those practices. I've met eclectic adepts and I've met dabblers in specific mystery traditions. We live in a global and digital world with access to more practices and beliefs than we ever had in the past. But in the end you either know your shit or you don't. And DarkSchneider's humility, openness and willingness to learn will put him on the path to adepthood faster than many.

[Mem]

Yes i intended to provoke him, definitely, don't even doubt it. Assuming it was a provocation is a sign of intelligence and Success.

[the_spiral]

Yes i intended to provoke him, definitely, don't even doubt it. Assuming it was a provocation is a sign of intelligence and Success.

And what is vague provocation and vaguer flattery a sign of, old friend?