Is the reincarnation limited by time?

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Is the reincarnation limited by time?

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What's your thoughts on this ? I didn't read many books about reincarnation but I was wondering the other day, if one dies here in 21st century can they be reincarnated in the 20 century ?

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"Never backwards, always forward, forward always."

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I agree with Desecrated,

Forward in a finite linear fashion, although perhaps, if one were allowed to
make a special request. Time travel is certainly possible.

The Universe is more about progressing, and evolving from beginning to end.
(Without recursion)If i'm not mistaken, the Magickal Formula of IAO conveys this rather well.

Isis/Kether the Beginning.
Apophis the destroyer, end of Universe.
Osirus, rebirth of another Universe following the Night of Brahma.

Reincarnation is this formula on a smaller scale, birth, death, and rebirth.

The linear time progression, however, is only confined to within the Universe.
Outside of it is the realm of non-linear time, or a stillness. Like meditation.

The Microcosm. A reflection of the Macrocosm in so many ways.
Or Vice Versa.

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While I am inclined to agree with the above, doesn't it assume time is linear?

It could just be that our perception of time is such, as we're incapable of perceiving time differently, but what if time is actually circular - or even a tangled mess, so different parts of the the same line/string overlap or touch - meaning that one could potentially move forward or backward or to other worlds entirely? If the universe is about progression, along with the human soul, what if the soul can progress/learn more by being sent to a previous time period?

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Robin_Alexander wrote:While I am inclined to agree with the above, doesn't it assume time is linear?
It could just be that our perception of time is such, as we're incapable of perceiving time differently, but what if time is actually circular - or even a tangled mess, so different parts of the the same line/string overlap or touch - meaning that one could potentially move forward or backward or to other worlds entirely? If the universe is about progression, along with the human soul, what if the soul can progress/learn more by being sent to a previous time period?
I think there exist abstractions of time, that deviate from the standard finite
linear time construct. But ultimately, evolution of the soul, like everything else
has an end. Which is to say, learning and progression of it is only temporary.
It, like everything else. Is reset, and everything becomes new again. Or being
allowed to forget, so starting over is a entirely new experience. And does appear
or have the illusion of a new beginning.

It's a way to transcend this finite linear time construct without confusion,
or redundancy.

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Robin_Alexander wrote:While I am inclined to agree with the above, doesn't it assume time is linear?
I'm perfectly fine with a linear time. Life is chaotic enough without having to involve multiple timelines, alternate dimensions and all other sci-fi wormholes of confusion.
If I drop an apple that is point A, point B is when it hits the floor. What happens before point A and point B is "time". I really don't want to live in a universe where I drop an apple tomorrow and my grandfather gets hit by a bus 40 years ago.

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I agree with Robin_Alexander. I believe time is just a mechanism that lets us percieve this world of ours. On higher levels I don't think there is time.

Percieving all things in an absolute and timeless manner would be too much a task, at least at the moment, for just a little piece of the cake such as we are. If one believes in completion and the absolute, one may be lead to think that all states of existence or permutations of the All are experienced at the same time (for there is none in the highest level) by the union of all parts that consitute the All -each a little picture-. In such a scenario, experiencing another part of all there is by a part of it such as us, would be theoretically possible.

From my human shoes I feel however that one may be able to experience past times only without taking an active role but in a passive observer way. That of course, might be a self imposed limitation. Seeing how people can forsee the future not bound by higher Wills opens also up the discussion and possibility for experiencing future states of the world we live in.

When reincarnating I can't honestly assess but my gut feeling is that we don't reincarnate backwards. It makes some sense if one sees how all acts influence all acts. Existence is a big domino, so it would be logical that each lifetime we experience in a more or less notable, the consecuence of our previous acts in our prior existence.

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According to the Buddha-dharma time is relative to which realm you are born in. A day in the celestial realms is 50 years in the human world, in the hell realm, the equivilent to a day is up to 200. You are not incarnated backwards in time, however, in any plane of existence.

My root guru, an enlightened Buddha told us that it takes a maximum of seven weeks in order to find a rebirth, once you are reborn into the in-between state and the death process is finished.

Seeing as how much the subject of rebirth is discussed in Buddhism, and the number of highly realised individuals who all agree on the matter, i would consider the Buddhist point of view to be the most accurate.
"Things derive their being from mutual dependence and are nothing in themselves." -Nagarjuna

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