[necromancy] [demonomancy] help me understand what i can do

[randomapprentice]

hey everyone

here's my situation: (with optionnal raggatek soundtrack.
in case you hate it, here's a good one for you: https://soundcloud.com/lyar/adele-hello ... jdam-cover)

>be me, a year ago
>smoke more canna than a hippie (helps with my bipolar syndrom and reflexions, i love it)
https://soundcloud.com/yael-yowii/yowii-ganja-time
>end up living with strange pple
>start having increasingly delirious delusions
>go away from everything
>realize quickly there is other consciousness than me in my thoughts
>seek a solution at multiple christian exorcist priests
>tell me i'm mad and demons are a metaphor and they've never actually seen a possessed person
https://soundcloud.com/yael-yowii/wicke ... owii-remix
>begin endless negotiations with the entities in order to get them to be more respectful towards me and themselves or get me in contact with other entities that'd be a better fit for me
https://soundcloud.com/yael-yowii/yowii ... -love-gone
>after what seems like multiple eternities they start getting a somewhat smarter, speaking english fluently (not my native language but i use it a lot) and things like that
>a year pass
>finally discover on the internet that magick exist. start researching. discover what people other than exorcist priests might be able to help me
>plan meeting with a medium in the city
>in between, decide i'm into necromancy (dealing with sinister beings)
https://soundcloud.com/si-vandal-kaotik ... h-of-today
>obviously demons do frequent our plane of existence. i know a lot of pple that are haunted/possessed. i realized a lot of famous artists are too and talk about it in their productions. denying it is not gonna improve the statu quo
>decide the world needs necromancers
>(King James I's Daemonologia especially helped in forging my convictions. i'd recommend it, i think it is a really good, exhaustive, and easy to understand treatise on evil, witchcraft, magick, faith and such, if you can cope with the fact the author is strongly in favor and one of the main instigators of strongly repressive inquisition. (+the old English is lovely ))
>start meditating to improve my concentration, (with ok results) spiritual perceptions and energy levels (with poor results)
>meet with the medium
>says ~10 entities are attached to me/my house
>says my aura is polluted at >100% and my vibration levels <10% of my normal level
>says i have to get exorcised fast because my situation is going to get a lot worse over the next few months
>says after the exorcism she will help me on my journey if i give my entire being to Light
https://soundcloud.com/billx/vandal-mr-politician
>be very skeptical. i know about the Light since a good while, i'd even say it's a part of me, but not my core conviction. i think Light-people's modus operandi is highly inneficient (eg on their systematic rejection of 'dark side' pple) (talking about those i met, +they do what they want, no disrespect intended)
>all other pple i contacted told me i should purify myself and refused to talk about if another possibility exists
>after reflecting upon and discussing with my entities about their psyche and compulsive motivations, (also probably seing the exorcism coming) they started making efforts i'd characterize as important considering their unnice and unhelpful nature
>think if i could keep contact with these entities i know and that know me, it could help my study. and afterall i realized they've been putting so much effort into me, however noxious... i think one should always stay in touch with one's enemies anyways. "keep your friends close, your enemies closer"
>go back to the internet like "fuck this shit do i need to go ask black wiz directly to get an actual answer?!"
>don't mind demons but need breathing space and to get stronger than the non-spiritual negociating victim i am right now
>got a couple of ideas: bind the entities to some object/sigil at my place (instead of my own aura) when i want their presence lightened in my thoughts. find a way to get my entities' 'phone number', get exorcised, train, then call them back. in both cases, i don't know where to start/what to do. maybe there exists some other ways too!
>ask you for opinion and advice

plz help guys

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[randomapprentice]

http://www.occultforum.org/forum/viewto ... =5&t=40186

wtf dude?
what do you take me for?

i'm asking for honest advice on managing entities here
i particular, if haunting/possession is incompatible with magical training or to what precise extent it is dangerous
what kind of precautions i should take if it is not, and about the fastest way to learn how to bind entities on something else than my aura or push them/call them back from another plane

why do you guys always feel so compelled to look down on everyone?
all occult books i read don't mention practice while not alone in one's aura or acting upon an entity in one's own aura. i'm a newb, i'd rather not guess

[Desecrated]

http://www.occultforum.org/forum/viewto ... =5&t=40186

wtf dude?
what do you take me for?

Some random idiot who stumbled into the forum without doing 5 minutes of research before spamming the board with irrelevant nonsense stemmed mostly from drugs and mental problems.

[randomapprentice]

alright, i'm not. doubts are dispelled, we can move on to the interesting part

i still don't get why you guys always get that first impression of everyone who's new to the occult
weren't you puzzled when you first got in contact with it? can you imagine how it is when you get in contact with it through demonic possession? it wasn't my picking, i have to work with what i have

[SerafinTronu]

Some random idiot who stumbled into the forum without doing 5 minutes of research before spamming the board with irrelevant nonsense stemmed mostly from drugs and mental problems.

I agree with it.

i still don't get why you guys always get that first impression of everyone who's new to the occult

This is the only fault of people like you.

Your first post is boring. I do not know what you mean, what you're looking for, I do not know what you want to know. etc. I do not know what you can do what you know. What do you want to know. Post hard to read. The design strongly shows that you have something with the head.

From what I see you do not need magic only doctor.

[Desecrated]

alright, i'm not. doubts are dispelled, we can move on to the interesting part

i still don't get why you guys always get that first impression of everyone who's new to the occult
weren't you puzzled when you first got in contact with it? can you imagine how it is when you get in contact with it through demonic possession? it wasn't my picking, i have to work with what i have

Whatever you are going through is not demonic possession.
It's extremely rare and if it was going on, you wouldn't be in any shape to use a computer.

However, drug issues and mental problem are fairly common, and you're showing signs of it.

[Desecrated]

I'm sorry that I called you an idiot. We don't allow personal attacks on this forum and it's a lack in my character to behave in such a way.

[randomapprentice]

I do not know what you mean, what you're looking for, I do not know what you want to know. etc. I do not know what you can do what you know. What do you want to know.

post title: help me understand what i can do
last sentence: ask you for opinion and advice - plz help guys

[randomapprentice]

Post hard to read. The design strongly shows that you have something with the head.

sorry i'm a marginal. be more open-minded. i thought this forum was a friendly place, hence i just tried to speak my mind clearly but with humor.

yes i kinda do have something with the head, i have asperger that was not diagnosed during childhood and schizophrenic tendencies. i always had the reputation of being a lunatic. i went through some therapy already, but that kind of thing doesn't make you something you're not, it teaches you to be in more harmony and acceptance with yourself.

being weird doesn't shield one from being haunted. it's rather the contrary.

[randomapprentice]

From what I see you do not need magic only doctor.

because you give me 0 credit when i say i'm haunted. not because you've analyzed the situation. because of your preconceptions that i'm not describing the truth, and without even asking questions to make sure this is justified or not.

[randomapprentice]

Whatever you are going through is not demonic possession.
It's extremely rare and if it was going on, you wouldn't be in any shape to use a computer.

YES I KNOW IT'S RARE EVERYONE ALWAYS TELLS ME THAT INSTEAD OF CONSIDERING WHAT I'M SAYING
i don't know if it's demonic or non-demonic or haunting or what have you, i am no specialist.
all i can say is i hear them, feel them, they can control my body if i'm not careful enough but cannot make me do things i'd not do, like hit my friends or scream or random things like that.
i can perfectly use the computer, even if sometimes i make mishandling. what's harder is writing the words i really think and not the entities' suggestions.
there you have it.

[randomapprentice]

I'm sorry that I called you an idiot. We don't allow personal attacks on this forum and it's a lack in my character to behave in such a way.

np, these things happen, my duty to prove you wrong

[LoneWolf]

Hi randomapprentice,

It's obvious you clearly feel there's something more to life. It is also obvious that you can't direct your current emotional and mental state towards this new way of percieving life. This causes your mind to ponder about if demons are there and in case they actually are, how many you got besides your bed. This doesn't help, actually it makes it even worse.

Your clear discomfort in life can only be exacerbated if you add MORE to your mental picture about what life is, right? The only way to deal with this extra "dimension" that your idea of life incorpored to itself, and by itself in the form of how your circustances evolved, is to be stronger yourself. You may agree it's a pretty logical idea.

I actually as a teenager when through pain and I wouldn't want you to suffer through the same. Do not mix emotional issues with the occult. It's hard to say since curiosity and impatience is clearly the name of youth, however I hope you reconsider and at least slow down a bit.

If I were you I would stop the drugs and would meditate daily. That alone would make you feel happy and fulfilled and you could watch all these interestingly 'weird' phenomena from a more solid perspective :-)

Just in case: Yes, there's more. No, you're not crazy. Yes, you are emotionally inbalanced though that is only an state that may be changed, not a problem or a definite punishment.

Sometimes you are happy sometimes sad, that doesn't mean that you are X or Y, it only means that if you want to feel good you should do things that keep you on the 'happy' state of you yourself.

So If you want to take my advise and I hope that it skips many pain: consider meditating daily and stop the drugs at least for some time.

I wish you well

[randomapprentice]

Hi randomapprentice,

It's obvious you clearly feel there's something more to life. It is also obvious that you can't direct your current emotional and mental state towards this new way of percieving life. This causes your mind to ponder about if demons are there and in case they actually are, how many you got besides your bed. This doesn't help, actually it makes it even worse.

absolutely

Your clear discomfort in life can only be exacerbated if you add MORE to your mental picture about what life is, right? The only way to deal with this extra "dimension" that your idea of life incorpored to itself, and by itself in the form of how your circustances evolved, is to be stronger yourself. You may agree it's a pretty logical idea.

agreed

I actually as a teenager when through pain and I wouldn't want you to suffer through the same. Do not mix emotional issues with the occult. It's hard to say since curiosity and impatience is clearly the name of youth, however I hope you reconsider and at least slow down a bit.

i never did. i've been emotionally unstable ages before i came in contact with the occult and it's been a hard journey to master on its own, so i know what to avoid and to control myself
however it's not that i want to go fast for the sake of it, rather that my situation is very uncomfortable and (from what i've got) risky so i'd prefer the fast method.

If I were you I would stop the drugs and would meditate daily. That alone would make you feel happy and fulfilled and you could watch all these interestingly 'weird' phenomena from a more solid perspective :-)

done

I wish you well

thanks
wish you well too. thrive, brother

i take it you have no advice for the haunted apprentice?

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http://www.occultforum.org/forum/viewto ... =5&t=40186

wtf dude?
what do you take me for?

Some random idiot who stumbled into the forum without doing 5 minutes of research before spamming the board with irrelevant nonsense stemmed mostly from drugs and mental problems.

This is not spam!

These are actually my favorite kind of posts to see on occultism boards. I wish there were more. My dream is to someday find a board that is NOTHING but posts like this. I go around the internet actually looking for stuff like this.

It is in no way irrelevant nonsense. Everything makes perfect sense to me. From my perspective, your criticism is totally uncalled for and you are the one spamming.

[Next]

I'm haunted/possessed too. (I call myself a haunted mansion!) But I love everything about it.

I don't know anything about rituals, I don't do them.

IMO if you already identify even a little bit with schizophrenia, you should be working to close the door to the spirit world.

I experience a form of soul retrieval all the time where I'm collecting pieces of my ghost husband. Every time I get a new piece, I'm a little more haunted (permanently). I think this is kinda like mopping up other people's demon pollution. Absorbing demon overflow. I think that's why I like posts by people with demon problems so much. Maybe their demons are being bound to me!