Using Sigils to Collect Energy

[Dr Strange Stuff]

Hey all! So I am new to this whole magic thing but I have an idea that I'd like some feedback on.
I'm thinking about putting sigils out in public with the intent of them capturing (some of) the energy of people that look at them then instructing the sigils to send that energy back to me for magickal workings or empowerment or charging crystals to use as magical batteries or feeding a servitor or whatever the case. I'm sure this idea isn't new to anyone but I haven't been able to find it on these or other forums. I am new to sigil magic and I have heard of Ellis( and i know to stay away from it). So that being said, when I mention linking sigils I mean sigils I have created to link to each other then ultimately back to me/ my point of interest(crystal/servitor/my aura, w/e). So adding to this thought of mine, could I create servitors that will live around the sigils that i place in the world so that they will collect energy from people begin near them without people having to look at them? For example, I put a sigil in an airport, train station, and the largest church in town, and create a servitor to multiply itself once for every place there is a sigil that I have created. Then I tell the servitor to soak up X amount of energy( say 1% of any human that walks within 20 feet of it), allow the servitor to have 1/2 the energy to feast on, then to send the rest of the energy back to a crystal I have in my room or maybe a "manager servitor" that will make sure all the other servitors aren't going rogue and to keep the energy contained within this system I have created. Does this seem like a feasible idea? Here are a few possible problems that I would like feedback on in particular, and possible solutions that I believe more experienced practitioners would be better suited to vet/ help me with.
1. I can't create a servitor that will multiply itself for each sigil i place in a different coordinate of space/time.( I could always create a new servitor for each location, although I'd rather not because it would significantly increase the building time of this system.)
2. Servitors can't soak up energy from people without people looking directly at the sigils.
3. Another magician can come in and highjack the system and take the energy for themselves, and take my servitors.(I have heard of using a chronosphere so other magicians will be unable to track my magical "scent" and attack me or steal the energy once it goes through the chronosphere. True/ False?)
4. The energy buildup would be too large and would inevitably cause my manager servitor to go rogue or gain sentience.(I could channel the excess energy into other servitors with the purpose of raising magical power in a city maybe)
5. If i plugged this into me at the end instead of a crystal something magical would happen, I would "energy overload" or magically combust or have a seizure or something.
Thank you all for your responses and I hope I'm not looking at this magic thing from the wrong perspective haha.

[Dr Strange Stuff]

Holy shit that looks long. Also, cursing is fine in this forum, right?

[Desecrated]

You don't necessary need a servitor to actively take energy, just a sigil can suck up ambient energy. Every-time somebody moves energy is created, so if you have something like a train-station, there is ton of energy in the air.

But yeah this is very doable. I highly recommend getting in touch with somebody that does band merchandise and have them print stickers for you. It's easier to put up, looks better and creates less hassle.

Although, there is a certain charm to doing everything by hand.

[Dr Strange Stuff]

The band merchandising idea is really good, and that would work even if people didn't see the sigils? That would be great. Would I have to program the sigils with a % or just "as much as you can" or would that somehow send off vibes that would cause people to find the sigil/ take it down/ destroy it?

[Shinichi]

This is a rather simple project and you don't even need to create servitors to operate it, just a simple array of sigils will do what you're wanting.

But one thing to keep in mind is that there are qualitative differences to energy in different places. Quality of energy is far more important than Quantity, depending on what exactly you want to do with the energy you are collecting. If you're sufficiently skilled you can put in a filtration system (or make use of things like orgonite, which is awesome when properly made), but that's just more work and another gear in the system that can clog things up. I can't even give good advice without knowing what you're wanting to do or what you're capable of doing. Though, being afraid of a cutie like Ellis shows a distinct lack of experience. Trust me, there are much more frightening things than the red spider lady. [tongue]

Hmm. There's one thing that may be able to help you, if you haven't seen it yet.

Watch that, and just insert your own sigils to the method.



~:Shin:~

[Desecrated]

The band merchandising idea is really good, and that would work even if people didn't see the sigils? That would be great. Would I have to program the sigils with a % or just "as much as you can" or would that somehow send off vibes that would cause people to find the sigil/ take it down/ destroy it?

I like the % idea.

You don't always have to see a sigil for it to work. If there is a spider on your wall you might not see it, but it's still there.

[Dr Strange Stuff]

Yes I had watched that video before when I first came up with the idea of the sigil matrix. I'm pretty sure that's the only video on you tube with "sigil matrix" and "chaosphere" in the title. I was trying to stay away from working with spirits because I don't have a patron saint yet and am not necessarily interested in getting one (I would rather gain a strong foothold in one branch of magic before branching out). When you say quality energy is more important, I have read that magical energy coming from the creator of the servitors is always better because it "means more" but I am trying to set up a system that will constantly be going without me adding anything to it. Also, I haven't been able to find any information elaborating on that so if you could elaborate on the different types of energy and what uses they would be best used for, that would help me a lot. Since you said I don't even need servitors to do this but I do need some type of filtration system for maximum efficiency, could I use servitors as the filtration system? I have looked on etsy and have studied orgonite extensively, and as soon as I can afford one I would like to get one of the orgonite pyramids, but until then could I use a servitor (or servitors) in its stead? To be honest, I would first like to use the grid to feed a servitor having to do with bringing me more money to free up my time so I can study this like it's my job, and no, I'm not joking.
As always thanks for the replies and this project is shaping up nicely [crazy]

[Dr Strange Stuff]

Also I noticed in the video that he made 12 sigils for 12 different places... Is that necessary or would 1 sigil that said "collect 50% of the energy that you are exposed to within 50 ft and send it to Servitor Jimmy" then posting that all over a town work? Then I could tell Servitor Jimmy to transmute all of the energy into "high quality energy" (this part i don't understand yet) and use the "high quality energy" to fuel Servitor Joe who's only mission in life is to bring me more money? This seems pretty theoretical but the sooner I see any type of result then the easier it will be to anchor in my reality. I just don't want to be too much of an Aires and bust up in this shit without doing my research first.

[Shinichi]

When you say quality energy is more important, I have read that magical energy coming from the creator of the servitors is always better because it "means more" but I am trying to set up a system that will constantly be going without me adding anything to it. Also, I haven't been able to find any information elaborating on that so if you could elaborate on the different types of energy and what uses they would be best used for, that would help me a lot.

I think you misunderstand the meaning of qualitative here. There are numerous "types" of energies, but ultimately they are all energy. It is the same stuff with different qualities, just like all the colors of the rainbow are the same white light reflected in slightly different ways.

So the energy of a healthy fresh apple is qualitatively different from the energy of a rotten apple. The energy of a healthy person or a happy person is qualitatively different from the energy of a sick or unhappy person. It is all energy, and you can move it around as you please if you are a skilled energy worker, but different qualities produce different effects. You don't really want to absorb a lot of sick energy, generally speaking.

Since you said I don't even need servitors to do this but I do need some type of filtration system for maximum efficiency, could I use servitors as the filtration system?

You could, but from what I can gather of the way you've talked about it so far, you're only skilled in a very basic use of servitors. You can make a non-sentient "filtration machine" servitor, or you could also just specify in your sigil what kind of energy you want to absorb. You're really kinda over complicating this whole thing.

To be honest, I would first like to use the grid to feed a servitor having to do with bringing me more money to free up my time so I can study this like it's my job, and no, I'm not joking.

Tell you what, I'm going to make this easy on you and give you a concise example which I just spent about five minutes constructing.



(the thing in the middle of the square is supposed to be the alchemical symbol of the sun, as are the other symbols like that, but I drew it free hand and casually so you'll have to excuse the crappiness)

This is a simple two part system. The triangle is set to absorb solar power and redirect it to the square. I can make several copies of the triangle seal (though at present, four is probably the most ideal number for this particular array), place them in areas with lots of sun, and charge them - during the charging / activation process, I'll make a link to the square, where all the solar energy absorbed by the triangles will end up. Then I can activate the square and tell it what to do with all of that solar power - fill it in a crystal, charge other sigils, recharge magical tools, charge solar seals, serve as the central pillar of another spell matrix (a ward to keep people out of a certain space, for example), or whatever I need solar energy for.

It's that simple. Sol is particularly useful in matters of finance, because of its association with gold, success, and so on. Jupiter is also good for money matters, and Financial Sorcery by Jason Miller has several Jupiter Seals for use in money magick that may also be of use.

I don't need to specify percentages, I don't need to take the minuscule and generally dirty ambiant energy found in urban areas, I don't need a servitor to watch over the system or filter the energy - it's just simple energy manipulation through an array of magical symbols, seals or sigils.

Now go practice and make your own.



~:Shin:~

[Dr Strange Stuff]

Wow, thank you! I appreciate the example and I have read Jason Miller's financial sorcery a few times. I'll charge a couple of those sigils using this method and let you know how it goes. You da Man/Woman!

[Next]

What do you personally need energy for?

You sound like you're more cut out for the physical world.

Why don't you start a business and substitute money for energy?

Applying a model like this to subtle energy sounds like mental illness to me.

Energy is not as complicated as you're making it out to be. It requires no external objects and no management, just surrender of your body.

You're operating from a place of lack.