My religious belief of reincarnation

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My religious belief of reincarnation

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Life
Life is chaos, life is random. All things are possible and all choices are your own responsibility.

Death
Once one die, you will enter the underworld. Within the underworld are reapers whose purpose is to guide and protect you. They shall start by asking you of what genre you would like for your next life. It does not matter if you were evil like Hitler or kind like Buddha, all are equal in the eyes of Death. Once you have selected your next life's genre, the reapers will guide you to drink of the soup of forgetfulness given by good old Meng Po. Lead on the path of reincarnation you shall walk, the path which branches endlessly. Each branch will bring you to a gate of reincarnation, where the world of your chosen the genre of remain. But, on your way to the gate of your choice, you will be cleansed of your sins with each step you take. At first it is painful, but after a few steps you shall feel lighter as you go. The pain can be described as the pain of training once body. Like how training your body can burn your calories, the path of reincarnation shall burn your sins away.

Why would these kind reapers and Gods go out of their way for you? Because the livings are their source of entertainment. The livings may even ascent and join them as reapers or warriors that shall protect all reality from the eldritch and world-devouring evil. Some mortals may even ascent further and become Gods. New Gods shall create their own worlds and these worlds shall become a new branch of reincarnation for the mortals to walk to by choice.

Rebirth
When you are reborn, you have no memories of your past life, nor shall you pay for what sins you committed in your past life. But life is chaos, life is random. Who knows what your new life will be like. To be a great sage, a traveler, or a beggar. That is up to fate.

There are some chances for you to be reborn together with your previous life's memories if you chose to. But only once per 10th life is it an option, and only those whose karma meets the level of good are allowed such privilege.

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There are many documented cases of clinical death followed by resuscitation. Do those experiences correlate with your beliefs?
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Xiandan-Master wrote: Sun Jul 13, 2025 4:52 pm
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There are some chances for you to be reborn together with your previous life's memories if you chose to. But only once per 10th life is it an option, and only those whose karma meets the level of good are allowed such privilege.
I don't believe that to be a universal truth. If you store all your data, all your memories (in a form of photos, videos, emails etc) on somebody else's servers, ie on Google's or Apple's cloud, then sure, you are bound by their "terms of service", that third party owns it and ultimately dictate the rules how or when you can use that service, they have the final say when, or if at all, you have access to all "your" data, and they are at liberty to alter those rules at any moment.
However, there is nothing fundamental in this Universe preventing you from keeping all your data in your own "cloud", hidden somewhere, with rules of access determined only by you and not by any third party.
And even when it comes to those "third party authorities", the rules they set are never written in stone, they will happily make exceptions to their own rules if it benefits them, if it helps them to achieve their goal.
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Amor wrote: Sun Jul 13, 2025 9:16 pm There are many documented cases of clinical death followed by resuscitation. Do those experiences correlate with your beliefs?
Yes, people that dies and gets resuscitated doesn't necessarily enter and then leave the underworld. Only when you're dead for good will you enter the underworld. I don't know the rules of the underworld or know any details for all that matter, nor should I know. It is just a belief after all. [thumbup]

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Xiandan-Master wrote: Mon Jul 14, 2025 7:14 am... It is just a belief after all.
I find it interesting that humans so often base life decisions on beliefs.

Personally I take every belief as an hypothesis awaiting a suitable metaphysical experiment

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We all have lots of "thoughts and beliefs" about the nature of reality....but Gnosis is King. Dive into the depths.....perceive the wheels of existence for yourself and then report back.

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WildWolf wrote: Mon Jul 14, 2025 5:46 pm We all have lots of "thoughts and beliefs" about the nature of reality....but Gnosis is King. Dive into the depths.....perceive the wheels of existence for yourself and then report back.
Certainly I know some things without belief.

My problem is that Reality does not fit easily into my perceptual patterns. Thus the layers of cosmic flows and intelligences are perceived through the filter of my consciousness and experiences.

For example it took decades before I could even perceive the intelligences that use multi-layered clusters of universes as their bodies of "incarnation"

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My religious belief of reincarnation - Update 1

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God/Goddess
In a God's/Goddess life, they once began as a mortal who cultivated and ascended. As a God/Goddess, one shall cultivate an inner world. The inner world shall start as a solar system and gradually grow into a universe. In this stage of their divine cultivation they can choose to descend and rule upon their own inner world as they pleases. Harming their inner world is to harm their own cultivation, therefore the Gods and Goddesses will not harm their own creation. Once they gets bored to the point of insanity they shall seek to transcend Death by self-destructing, but rather than self-destruction, it is to transform their inner world outward. By doing so, they themself transforms into The Father, The Son and The Holy Spirit or The Mother, The Maiden and The Crone. Which transcend Death as we know it.

The Father/The Mother: Energy becomes matter and the world is born.
The Son/The Maiden: The God's/Goddess Soul split into an unknown number of Mortal Souls.
The Holy Spirit/The Crone: The Crone that weaves fate and laws and the Holy Spirit are the laws of physic and the Great Dao itself.

The Gods and Goddesses consciousness of what is left from splitting their soul shall then enter the circle of reincarnation once more.

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My religious belief of reincarnation - Update 2

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What it is like to walk on the path of reincarnation
In the beginning, you get to choose your next life's world theme, the species and race that you desire to be, and one trait. When you are done choosing, it will be time for your walk on "The Path of Purification". All your "sins" and demerit will transform into fat for you to carry on your way to "The Gate of Reincarnation" of your choice. You are forced by Reapers and Daemons to keep moving till you can't any more, then you will be moved to one of many rest stops in the form of an Inn/Hotel with a spa. The food, rest and spa of the rest stop will also purify your soul. The further you get to your destination, the lighter you become. At the end you will find one last Inn/Hotel where you will get one last spa day. The next day you will be given the "Soup of Meng Po" at the rest stop, and as you walk on "The Bridge between Life and Death" to "The Gate of Reincarnation", you will start to forget everything. At last, you are once more a pure soul, ready for reincarnation.

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Xiandan-Master wrote: Wed Jul 23, 2025 11:17 am.... In this stage of their divine cultivation they can choose to descend and rule upon their own inner world as they pleases....
The Father/The Mother: Energy becomes matter and the world is born....
Is there a set of worlds for every self-conscious entity?

Would such worlds be constrained by any cosmic protocols?

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Xiandan-Master wrote: Wed Aug 27, 2025 8:22 pm... as you walk on "The Bridge between Life and Death" to "The Gate of Reincarnation", you will start to forget everything. At last, you are once more a pure soul, ready for reincarnation.
That is a bit disappointing. I was hoping to not have to re-learn the same lessons in every incarnation

Still, I wonder if child prodigies such as Mozart actually arrive with some skills already in place from previous lives.

Also, I suspect that the term "soul" is used very flexibly in our culture - while the inner plane realities are much more complex.

For example, my long-departed mother recently reported that she has been promoted out of the group learning how to manage planetary meridians into a group learning to manage solar systemic meridians.

She also told me to contact my sister as she has some health problems. When I did, my sister said she had had two cancer surgeries but was now healthy.

My own view is that without identifying causes, it is hard to be so optimistic.

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Amor wrote: Thu Aug 28, 2025 1:19 am
Xiandan-Master wrote: Wed Jul 23, 2025 11:17 am.... In this stage of their divine cultivation they can choose to descend and rule upon their own inner world as they pleases....
The Father/The Mother: Energy becomes matter and the world is born....
Is there a set of worlds for every self-conscious entity?

Would such worlds be constrained by any cosmic protocols?
Probably yes, depending one what inner world cultivation art they chooses from. Wherever that may be.

Like video games, each game is how you program and design them to be. But, like programming, it depends on the coding language of what can be done. But that is just what I think.

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Amor wrote: Thu Aug 28, 2025 1:28 am
Xiandan-Master wrote: Wed Aug 27, 2025 8:22 pm... as you walk on "The Bridge between Life and Death" to "The Gate of Reincarnation", you will start to forget everything. At last, you are once more a pure soul, ready for reincarnation.
That is a bit disappointing. I was hoping to not have to re-learn the same lessons in every incarnation

Still, I wonder if child prodigies such as Mozart actually arrive with some skills already in place from previous lives.

Also, I suspect that the term "soul" is used very flexibly in our culture - while the inner plane realities are much more complex.

For example, my long-departed mother recently reported that she has been promoted out of the group learning how to manage planetary meridians into a group learning to manage solar systemic meridians.

She also told me to contact my sister as she has some health problems. When I did, my sister said she had had two cancer surgeries but was now healthy.

My own view is that without identifying causes, it is hard to be so optimistic.
If you don't drink the Soup of Forgetfulness, you will eventually get bored of everything. Nothing new to learn and nothing new to experience. Also, the weight of your soul may be too much for a newborn body to handle.

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My own view is that the human is a designed component of a cosmic system. If so, it is important that enough humans become functional in the cosmos

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The Soul and its growth
The birth of all new souls comes from when a God or Goddess ascend and becomes a new reality. The part of ascending: the Son/The Maiden, is where the Deity split into multiple tiny sparks of new souls. As a Newborn Soul, it will reincarnate into tiny lifeforms such as cells and bacteria. After each reincarnation it will grow stronger and it shall get reborn into larger or stronger lifeforms, like insects, etc. The older the soul, the stronger it is. This is why humans do not become insects in their next life. Unless the lifeform isn't big or strong enough to contain the soul, then the soul cannot reincarnate into it. That also means, if the animal, insect like alien, or plant life is strong enough, a human soul can reincarnate into it if they desired so. Eventually, the soul will have its chance to cultivate into Godhood or just reincarnate into Godhood, which takes longer of course. Starting the Cycle at new.

This is The Cycle of Souls and Deities.

Do remember that souls can reincarnate into other worlds even as a newborn soul. This is why both insects, humans and alien lifeforms can exist in the same period of time.

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I am not sure the concept of deities is very useful.

My own view is that Existence is used as the body of incarnation/manifestation by The Source of All.

Humans are inclined to take a bottom-up view, using human society as a model to analyze a reality that is much more profound

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Amor wrote: Wed Sep 10, 2025 8:58 pm My own view is that Existence is used as the body of incarnation/manifestation by The Source of All.

Probably more like "The Source of All"(or primordial) would just become existence itself where the prior post was more about specific hierarchal spiritual implanting.

Neither here nor there

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The Source of All (Brahma?), in the Hindu tradition, generates Existence with at least one universe. At some stage that universe ceases and the gap until the replacement universe appears is called a/the Mahapralaya.

I am unaware of other traditions that deal with the gap between the disappearance of a/the universe and the manifestation of the replacement.

In my observation (if reliable) there are clusters of universes where each cluster serves as the body of manifestation for a great intelligence that emerged from and will withdraw into The Source of All

And there are clusters of clusters of clusters .....- at least 10,000 levels of clustering.

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Amor wrote: Thu Sep 11, 2025 2:43 am I am unaware of other traditions that deal with the gap between the disappearance of a/the universe and the manifestation of the replacement.

It's just a non-time gap – zero duration. None of the common dimensions exist beyond the universe. It's a negative existence, and the universe is a positive existence.

Neither here nor there

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CCoburn wrote: Thu Sep 11, 2025 2:52 am It's just a non-time gap – zero duration..
Not sure that is true. Could intelligences within The Source of All have some experience of the gap?

For example, they would be lacking opportunity for a manifested existence

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Amor wrote: Thu Sep 11, 2025 3:08 am Not sure that is true. Could intelligences within The Source of All have some experience of the gap?
They could have knowlegde of it like I do, but they wouldn't have any control over it. The primordial is the only thing capable of transcending universes which is why it is referred as self-begotten.
Amor wrote: Thu Sep 11, 2025 3:08 am For example, they would be lacking opportunity for a manifested existence
Yes, but it would only be after many eons that a universe would reset and begin anew as an outermost eternal algorithmic sequencing. I do suspect though that whatever exists during the course of the current universe would be preserved in some manner within the primordial.

Neither here nor there

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Where there is Order, there is Chaos
My belief isn't just about a peaceful afterlife with kind Gods and Goddesses. It also has its horror. Just like how most Deities are of an orderly fashion, both wise and kind. There are also those of Chaos and Horror. But fear not, both old and new Gods/Goddesses are there to fight them off as they do not get along with those kind.

Chaos Gods/Goddesses
Those who seek to be free from rules and etiquette. They are not evil or necessarily cruel, they just don't care of what you think of them and how they behave. "So what if they kill a clan or two, they had it coming anyway".

Eldritch Gods/Goddesses
Those who break the natural order and devour worlds. Some are mindless where others are driven mad. Twisted by time and space. Feeds on fear and broken souls. They are what Gods/Goddesses fear to become if they fail to ascend from death and transform into a new world.

Fallen Gods/Goddesses
They use to be kind but fate had other plans for them. They were on the right path but got greedy. They absorb others work and devour weak worlds. They are the cause of serval apocalypses and creators of many world-ending schemes.

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