Order of the 9 Angles (no typo, Angles, not Angels)

[Adeptus7]

Video version with audio and images: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4x90at2frlA

(It was written mostly for the players of the Lovecraftian TTRPGs, like Call of Cthulhu, Delta Green etc., but during my research I found some wild shit, so I am sharing it with You).

Academics have found it difficult to ascertain "exact and verifiable information" about the ONA's origins given the high level of secrecy it maintains. As with many other occult organisations, the Order shrouds its history in "mystery and legend", creating a "mythical narrative" for its origins and development.

The ONA claims to be the descendant of pre-Christian pagan traditions which survived the Christianisation of Britain and were passed down from the Middle Ages onward in small groups or "temples" which were based in the Welsh Marches – a border area which is located between England and Wales – each of which was led by a grand master or a grand mistress. Sounds like anothe New Age pagan group? Well, ONA members consider themselves „traditional satanists”. And they are not Laveyan Satanists, aka atheists who like edgy, dark vibes.

The ONA believe that humans live within the causal realm, which obeys the laws of cause and effect. They also believe in an acausal realm, in which the laws of physics do not apply, further promoting the idea that numinous energies from the acausal realm can be drawn into the causal, allowing for the performance of magic.

The Order promotes the idea that "Dark Gods" exist within the acausal realm, although it is accepted that some members will interpret them not as real entities but as facets of the human subconscious.

These entities are perceived as dangerous, with the ONA advising caution when interacting with them. Among those Dark Gods whose identities have been discussed in the Order's publicly available material are a goddess named Baphomet who is depicted as a mature woman carrying a severed head. Another of these acausal figures is termed Vindex, after the Latin word for "avenger". The ONA believe that Vindex will eventually incarnate as a human – although the sex and ethnicity of this individual is unknown – through the successful "presencing" of acausal energies within the causal realm, and that they will act as a messianic figure by overthrowing the current forces and leading the ONA to prominence in the establishment of a new society. Nyarlathothep?

The ONA arose to public attention in the early 1980s. During the 1980s and 1990s, it spread its message through articles in magazines. In 1988, it began publication of its own in-house journal, titled Fenrir. Among material it has issued for public consumption have been philosophical tracts, ritual instruction, letters, poetry, and gothic fiction. Its core ritual text is titled the Black Book of Satan. It has also issued its own music, painted tarot set known as the Sinister Tarot, and a three-dimensional board game known as the Star Game.

The group largely consists of autonomous cells known as "nexions". The original cell, based in Shropshire, is known as "Nexion Zero", with the majority of subsequent groups having been established in Britain, Ireland, and Germany. Nexions and other associated groups have been established in the United States, Australia, Brazil, Egypt, Italy, Spain, Portugal, Poland, Serbia, Russia and South Africa.

The Satanism, the ONA assert, requires venturing into the realm of the forbidden and illegal in order to shake the practitioner loose of cultural and political conditioning. It should undermine society and establish its own „Imperium”. ONA texts such as "The Dreccian Way", "Iron Gates", "Bluebird" and "The Rape Anthology" recommend and praise rape and pedophilia, even suggesting rape is necessary for "ascension of the Ubermensch". And all of this is not some posturing by wannabe villains „huhu, we are so evil!!!'.

The FBI officially considers ONA nexion 764 and its offshoots terrorist organizations. According to Global Project Against Hate and Extremism", "[764] operates within the framework of the broader ONA, which advocates the destruction of society through criminal acts such as violence, sexual assault, murder, and terrorism [and] is implicated in a network of online cults that exploit and groom children." https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/202 ... lt-764-fbi

As of November 2023 Finnish police was investigating at least three terrorism cases connected to ONA. Russian Sergey Chulkov ("Nosferatu") allegedly raped a 14-year-old girl — several times in his car, then in an apartment on Moscow Zavodskaya Street. Chulkov is a member of a Russian nexion according to the police, was arrested with ONA literature and was tattooed with satanic occult symbols. In December 2024, a high school student in Guadalajara, Mexico broadcasted himself attacking his classmates with an axe. His social media posts showed his allegiance to the Order of Nine Angles, including blood pacts.

23-year-old Hugo Figuerola, member of the ONA, was arrested in late February 2025 in Spain for threatening a mass shooting and bombing in Valencia, A Wisconsin teen is alleged to have killed his father and mother on February 11, 2025 and planned to assassinate DT (current president of the USA) to "save the white race" and start a revolution. The teen was also in possession of ONA material and identified himself as a member of ONA.

So, when You are watching a horror about some satanic evil global conspiracy, and someone says „actually, real life Satanists are not like that”, You can answer „actually, some of Satanists are exactly like that”.

ONA members describe themselves as Satanists, but their core concept – existence of the acausal reality, which denies established rules of logic and science and bizarre „Dark Gods” which are connected to it and which are dangerous to be contacted, makes them potential antagonist in the Lovecraftian story as an eldritch cult, just using „Satan” as name recognizable in the culture (well, is Satan not just one of the faces of Nyarlathotep?). And their behaviour sounds very similar to the credo of the cult of Cthulhu: „Then the liberated Old Ones would teach them new ways to shout and kill and revel and enjoy themselves, and all the earth would flame with a holocaust of ecstasy and freedom”.

[Amor]

How did the acausal realm come to exist?

[Adeptus7]

How did the acausal realm come to exist?

Well, I guess it is like asking Abrahamicals "Who created the Creator?"

[CCoburn]

How did the acausal realm come to exist?

Well, I guess it is like asking Abrahamicals "Who created the Creator?"


Acausal | Who Created the Creator


There're many ways to reply here...

Acausal, creator, primordial, or unmoved mover. It's all the same more or less. There is no prior cause that manifests the creator other than the creator itself, which is why it is referred self-begotten.

One way to arrive at the acausal is through a presumptive reduction of everything that was created. This "reduction" approaches a negative existence, where hypothetically, all that remains is that which is 'uncreated' i.e. acausal et cetera.

It is equally absurd to posit that existence only has a single beginning as opposed to no beginning and no end, so the game then becomes to converge upon the correct answer in the absence of reason where the result appears more a hybrid of the two.

Sometimes I refer to this abstract cycle as The Eternal Algorithm since it represents a never-ending sequence of events. These "events" are seeded transpiring at the deepest of "uncreated" roots germinating and propagating via the primordial creator God.

[CCoburn]

The above is in contrast with M-theory and the bulk where the bulk is the 11th dimension as some theoretically infinite spatial container in which the multiverse resides and would therefore be "uncreated" as well which doesn't make nearly as much sense to me as treating space and even time as emergent properties as well.

[Adeptus7]

I find concept of the higher dimensions very fascinating, could you write something more?

[Amor]

In the last century, planes were referenced - 7th as physical, 6th emotions, 5th mental etc

That was apparently too confusing so now the 3rd dimension is the physical, the 4th dimension is emotional etc

The recent numbering is not part of the galactic process so the numbers have no functional power.

Is it a plot to ensure that humans cannot access their power?

[CCoburn]

I find concept of the higher dimensions very fascinating, could you write something more?

M-theory Versus Expansion Theory


I first became involved with the 11 dimensions of M-theory a couple decades ago, and I was also interested, at first, but more as a party trick of knowledge than anything else. I did find ways to incorporate it into a progressing model of cosmology which was likely me just being creative more than anything else.

As time went on, I was more drawn to expansion theories as pieces of the puzzle began falling into place. Those 6 micro dimensions of M-theory are a bizarre anomaly, but the most prominent fallacy is the 'uncreated' outermost spatial container referred as "the bulk": 3 spatial + time + 6 micro (calabi-yau manifolds) + the bulk = 11 dimensions.

Nowadays, I only retain the primary four of space and time, but there can be other global non-mathematical dimensions that fit the criterion (related to consciousness), such as feeling(not touch), dynamics of consciousness, and altered states thereof.

The micro dimensions of M-theory could even be erroneous mathematical remnants created by incorrect model parameters such as the 11th dimensional bulk. Infinite space is not a static parameter of existence. It was created, just like everything else.

[Amor]

Pythagoras told us that numbers are alive.

So one test of the reality of an 11 dimensional system is to do experiments with the alleged numbering.

For example there should be resonances that can be modified to produce experimental results

[CCoburn]

So one test of the reality of an 11 dimensional system is to do experiments with the alleged numbering.

I think the 11th dimension is an error in existential logic and the proper model can be formulated via transcendental reasoning and the law of parsimony.

[Amor]

Does the law of parsimony reduce complexity until it suits the human mind?

I once met a fellow while I was meditating. For an unknown reason I asked him: How intelligent am I compared with you?

He instantly replied: 9%

I have no reason to doubt him

[CCoburn]

Does the law of parsimony reduce complexity until it suits the human mind?

It does tend to slice away at superfluous conjecture.

[Amor]

No wonder the meme "Everything you know is wrong" is so popular

In human society it seems to have started with this lecture on the biological origins of humans

https://youtu.be/e5qJYwfAju8

[CCoburn]

[CCoburn]

[Amor]

"You can't handle the truth"

Quite so! The human persona hates to be wrong. Often it will let the physical body die rather than admit it has been wrong for 50 years about diet/health/lifestyle

[DarkHermit]

Video version with audio and images: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4x90at2frlA

(It was written mostly for the players of the Lovecraftian TTRPGs, like Call of Cthulhu, Delta Green etc., but during my research I found some wild shit, so I am sharing it with You).

Academics have found it difficult to ascertain "exact and verifiable information" about the ONA's origins given the high level of secrecy it maintains. As with many other occult organisations, the Order shrouds its history in "mystery and legend", creating a "mythical narrative" for its origins and development.

The ONA claims to be the descendant of pre-Christian pagan traditions which survived the Christianisation of Britain and were passed down from the Middle Ages onward in small groups or "temples" which were based in the Welsh Marches – a border area which is located between England and Wales – each of which was led by a grand master or a grand mistress. Sounds like anothe New Age pagan group? Well, ONA members consider themselves „traditional satanists”. And they are not Laveyan Satanists, aka atheists who like edgy, dark vibes.

The ONA believe that humans live within the causal realm, which obeys the laws of cause and effect. They also believe in an acausal realm, in which the laws of physics do not apply, further promoting the idea that numinous energies from the acausal realm can be drawn into the causal, allowing for the performance of magic.

The Order promotes the idea that "Dark Gods" exist within the acausal realm, although it is accepted that some members will interpret them not as real entities but as facets of the human subconscious.

These entities are perceived as dangerous, with the ONA advising caution when interacting with them. Among those Dark Gods whose identities have been discussed in the Order's publicly available material are a goddess named Baphomet who is depicted as a mature woman carrying a severed head. Another of these acausal figures is termed Vindex, after the Latin word for "avenger". The ONA believe that Vindex will eventually incarnate as a human – although the sex and ethnicity of this individual is unknown – through the successful "presencing" of acausal energies within the causal realm, and that they will act as a messianic figure by overthrowing the current forces and leading the ONA to prominence in the establishment of a new society. Nyarlathothep?

The ONA arose to public attention in the early 1980s. During the 1980s and 1990s, it spread its message through articles in magazines. In 1988, it began publication of its own in-house journal, titled Fenrir. Among material it has issued for public consumption have been philosophical tracts, ritual instruction, letters, poetry, and gothic fiction. Its core ritual text is titled the Black Book of Satan. It has also issued its own music, painted tarot set known as the Sinister Tarot, and a three-dimensional board game known as the Star Game.

The group largely consists of autonomous cells known as "nexions". The original cell, based in Shropshire, is known as "Nexion Zero", with the majority of subsequent groups having been established in Britain, Ireland, and Germany. Nexions and other associated groups have been established in the United States, Australia, Brazil, Egypt, Italy, Spain, Portugal, Poland, Serbia, Russia and South Africa.

The Satanism, the ONA assert, requires venturing into the realm of the forbidden and illegal in order to shake the practitioner loose of cultural and political conditioning. It should undermine society and establish its own „Imperium”. ONA texts such as "The Dreccian Way", "Iron Gates", "Bluebird" and "The Rape Anthology" recommend and praise rape and pedophilia, even suggesting rape is necessary for "ascension of the Ubermensch". And all of this is not some posturing by wannabe villains „huhu, we are so evil!!!'.

The FBI officially considers ONA nexion 764 and its offshoots terrorist organizations. According to Global Project Against Hate and Extremism", "[764] operates within the framework of the broader ONA, which advocates the destruction of society through criminal acts such as violence, sexual assault, murder, and terrorism [and] is implicated in a network of online cults that exploit and groom children." https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/202 ... lt-764-fbi

As of November 2023 Finnish police was investigating at least three terrorism cases connected to ONA. Russian Sergey Chulkov ("Nosferatu") allegedly raped a 14-year-old girl — several times in his car, then in an apartment on Moscow Zavodskaya Street. Chulkov is a member of a Russian nexion according to the police, was arrested with ONA literature and was tattooed with satanic occult symbols. In December 2024, a high school student in Guadalajara, Mexico broadcasted himself attacking his classmates with an axe. His social media posts showed his allegiance to the Order of Nine Angles, including blood pacts.

23-year-old Hugo Figuerola, member of the ONA, was arrested in late February 2025 in Spain for threatening a mass shooting and bombing in Valencia, A Wisconsin teen is alleged to have killed his father and mother on February 11, 2025 and planned to assassinate DT (current president of the USA) to "save the white race" and start a revolution. The teen was also in possession of ONA material and identified himself as a member of ONA.

So, when You are watching a horror about some satanic evil global conspiracy, and someone says „actually, real life Satanists are not like that”, You can answer „actually, some of Satanists are exactly like that”.

ONA members describe themselves as Satanists, but their core concept – existence of the acausal reality, which denies established rules of logic and science and bizarre „Dark Gods” which are connected to it and which are dangerous to be contacted, makes them potential antagonist in the Lovecraftian story as an eldritch cult, just using „Satan” as name recognizable in the culture (well, is Satan not just one of the faces of Nyarlathotep?). And their behaviour sounds very similar to the credo of the cult of Cthulhu: „Then the liberated Old Ones would teach them new ways to shout and kill and revel and enjoy themselves, and all the earth would flame with a holocaust of ecstasy and freedom”.

According to my research Lavay was a thistic satanist and taught it (if you read between the lines of his writings) If you go on the Brotherhood of Satan website you will find they it is they that are the TRUE traditional satanists, the freemasons and the illuminati comes from them, I tried to contact them by email but they did not get back to me.