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Original post: Crash Test Dummy

A couple of quotes here that I feel I need to comment on:
I'm not speaking of others. I am speaking of myself and the criminal conspiracy designed to steal from me my BIRTHRIGHT.
I'm speaking of driving which is a god givin right.
Driving a car is neither your birthright nor a God-given right. I'd like to you explain why a slip of plastic granted to you by your government for passing standardized tests is your birthright, or your God-given right. I've been trying to think of reasons but I'm drawing a blank on why anyone would assume this to be true.

After reading this I just couldn't help myself from commenting further:
I hear the call of the universe. I feel the flow of reality and yet I am denied by the ignorant fools who dare to claim authority over me.
I'm going to be brutally honest and tell you that having a car is probably the least of your problems when being considered for a job opening, because you seem like an elitist prick, and quite possibly have a few screws loose. You might not come out and say "You stupid fools! How dare you claim authority over me?!" but people pick up on these sorts of things. They aren't as ignorant as you think. You may "feel the flow of reality" but it doesn't look like that's helped you out very much with your plight. Take some responsibility for yourself; not everyone is out to get you.

You want a car?
Step One: Find a job that you can ride your bike to.
Step Two: Work there, and save your money.
Step Two-and-a-half: Don't get fired for inadvertantly saying "You ignorant fools seek to steal away my birthright from me; how dare you claim authority over me, as I am one who hears the call of the universe and feels the flow of reality!" while in front of your boss.
Step Three: Buy or lease a car.
Step Four: Now that you own a car, look for a higher paying job.

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Crash Test Dummy]A couple of quotes here that I feel I need to comment on:
Driving a car is neither your birthright nor a God-given right. I'd like to you explain why a slip of plastic granted to you by your government for passing standardized tests is your birthright, or your God-given right.

Nevertheless I have a right to drive regardless of what limitations my so called govt places on driving. those regulations are for purposes of control, nothing more.
I'm going to be brutally honest and tell you that having a car is probably the least of your problems when being considered for a job opening, because you seem like an elitist prick, and quite possibly have a few screws loose.

:lol:! Seriously though, I have had potential employers tell me that I had all the qualifications neccesary, but they wanted to hire someone with a car because it is a fact that people in cars have an easier time of getting to work when its constantly raining as it does up here in this area. Whereas a man on a bike in the rain is...all together now....ALL WET!
You may "feel the flow of reality" but it doesn't look like that's helped you out very much with your plight.

I feel as If i'm Christopher Columbus.

CC: the world! She is a round!
Rest of the world: You eltist prick! How dare you say that!
Take some responsibility for yourself;

I have. hence my acknowledgement of my right to drive.
not everyone is out to get you.

Never said they were.

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P.S. I'm not near the dumbass you presume me to be.

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driving sucks,

it may seem like some gift of freedom, but there's insurance, maintainance speed limits, old people that can't see, a lot of traffic that can cause even the best driver to lose control, people that have little regard for other drivers on the road, rush hour traffic, people talking on cell phones, speeding tickets, winter weather, rainy roads, registration, liscence renewal all wrapped up in a constant headache and state of alertness watching out for those who are not watching out for you.

i miss a public bus system, reasonably priced taxis and a nice long el ride...i've traded that in for road rage and a desire to let my husband drive whenever possible.

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[QUOTE=Nicholas777]Nevertheless I have a right to drive regardless of what limitations my so called govt places on driving. those regulations are for purposes of control, nothing more.
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and i should have the right to not worry about my children crossing a road, not have to pay higher insurance rates for poor drivers, or listen to people speeding by with loud bass at one am on a sleepy street.

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Well everyone, let me say that ALL of you have provided some very reasonable and logical answers to this person's problems. Now, I suggest we just let him pout about it and piss and moan with no replys. We obviously can't discuss it with him reasonably, since he has taken a totally unreasonable stance on the subject. Maybe tomorrow he will go to a church of his choice and they will issue him his God-mandated driver's license. I kinda doubt it though. :D

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"Spare me the tree hugging hippie speal."

You wouldn't say that if you saw half your countryside torn up for the sake of cars. What would I rather see, tarmac roads or countryside?

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I'm not whining or moaning. I have simply stated my opinion. I find it amazing that so many have complained about cars. I think its fine that you have yours but please don't devalue mine simply because you can't understand my POV.



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[QUOTE=Deputy]Well everyone, let me say that ALL of you have provided some very reasonable and logical answers to this person's problems. Now, I suggest we just let him pout about it and piss and moan with no replys. We obviously can't discuss it with him reasonably, since he has taken a totally unreasonable stance on the subject. Maybe tomorrow he will go to a church of his choice and they will issue him his God-mandated driver's license. I kinda doubt it though. :D

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[QUOTE=martin]"Spare me the tree hugging hippie speal."

You wouldn't say that if you saw half your countryside torn up for the sake of cars. What would I rather see, tarmac roads or countryside?

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Yeah but you people drive on the wrong side of the road.

That's about the level of intelligence your responding with so I decided to respond in kind. How does it feel?

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Original post: Crash Test Dummy

I'm going to point out all of the places where you either contradict yourself or make no sense whatsoever, because Deputy hit the nail square on the head. These are in no particular order and please forgive the length of the post:

Quote #1:
I feel as If i'm Christopher Columbus.

CC: the world! She is a round!
Rest of the world: You eltist prick! How dare you say that!
Rebuttal:
Christopher Columbus also had to jump through hoops in order to receive ships, men, and supplies for his journey. The knowledge doesn't mean much if you can't play the game here in reality. Here are some of your own words to prove this point though:
My god is stronger than your god! My policy is stronger than your policy! My Will is stronger than your Will! My magick is stronger than your magick!
This is technically your signature, but it's a part of every post you've made. Sounds pretty elitist to me.
I'm not speaking of others. I am speaking of myself and the criminal conspiracy designed to steal from me my BIRTHRIGHT.
This has a tad of elitism, but more in the "screws loose" category if you believe criminals are conspiring to keep you from owning a car.
They are rights to be won through effort and they shall be won and those who oppose me shall find their remains littering the floor.

Stong words? Yes, but my enemies seem to only understand a firm hand.
Your enemies? The guy who wants you to be at work on time is your enemy? Or is the guy trying to make a living be selling cars? I think I can substitute "elitism" for "Napoleon complex" in this situation. There is no conspiracy to keep you from a car. You can smite your foes all you like, but smiting doesn't put the keys in your hand. It's ironic that you use the phrase "rights to be won through effort" yet you demonstrate no effort on your own part to remedy the situation.
I hear the call of the universe. I feel the flow of reality and yet I am denied by the ignorant fools who dare to claim authority over me.
This implies that you are superior to the people who are "conspiring" to keep you out of a car. Everyone who opposes your noble quest for a car is "ignorant" and you are in the right, which is most likely not true.

Quote #2
In response to "not everyone is out to get you" you respond:
Never said they were.
Rebuttal:
Forgive me for quoting the same few responses, but they apply to this as well. These basically speak for themselves, as they're all generalizing blame on someone else for your inability to get a car.
Nevertheless I have a right to drive regardless of what limitations my so called govt places on driving. those regulations are for purposes of control, nothing more.
I am denied by the ignorant fools who dare to claim authority over me
I have been denied jobs because I don't have a car adn I need a car to get a job. It's societys twisted little catch-22.
I am speaking of myself and the criminal conspiracy designed to steal from me my BIRTHRIGHT.
Quote #3
On opinions:
I think its fine that you have yours but please don't devalue mine simply because you can't understand my POV.
Rebuttal:
Spare me the tree hugging hippie speal.
Yeah but you people drive on the wrong side of the road.

That's about the level of intelligence your responding with so I decided to respond in kind. How does it feel?
He stated his opinion, and you attacked him for it. Do as I say, and not as I do?

Quote #4
Regarding "taking responsibility for yourself" you say:
I have. hence my acknowledgement of my right to drive.
Rebuttal:
This, quite frankly, doesn't make any sense. Taking responsibility for yourself doesn't mean that you piss and moan about your "birthright," it means getting off your ass and doing what needs to be done. Once again, complaining doesn't put the keys in your hand.
No. i'm 30 and have had my liscence and have had a car, both were stolen from me when I was homeless for a year.
After you got back on your feet, you could've paid the eight bucks in order to renew your license. Hell, you wouldn't have even needed to pass the "grueling" and "oppressive" tests if you did it in time. You had some bad luck, became homeless, and had your car stolen. It happens; life isn't fair, and Fr. Qim said it perfectly with "Thriving is not a right either. Success is not a right." You can either continue to bemoan your luck, or do something to change it.

Quote #5
Just look at all the hoops the govt immoraly sets up for people to jump through to get a car, and if you don't have the money you don't get to drive. Well you say get a job. It doesn't work very well to apply for a job that's 90 minutes away on a bike....add the fact that it rains a lot here.
So, don't apply for a job that's a 90 minute bike-ride away. Take public transportation, plead with a friend to help you out of this hole, by driving you to and from work. If you still decide to ride your bike, leave extra early in order to be presentable by the time work starts. There are so many solutions to this problem.

You have a few problems with connecting these dots together. You feel you deserve a car, but when you had one, either through bad luck or bad personal decisions, you lost it. I have to believe that you realized your fixation with cars at this point, and yet did nothing to remedy the situation. For one as admittedly "enlightened" (as you've told us over and over, ad naseum), you had to realize that there were steps you could've taken to gain back your "birthright." Banging your head into a wall doesn't accomplish anything, except now you have a headache and still own no car. Once again, take responsibility for yourself, and do what needs to be done to get back your car. If it's as important as you've made it out to be on this thread, then get off your ass and do something about it.

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It's clear you are unable to understand my words. I will do my best to clear away your confusion.
Crash Test Dummy]Quote #1:
Rebuttal:
Christopher Columbus also had to jump through hoops in order to receive ships, men, and supplies for his journey. The knowledge doesn't mean much if you can't play the game here in reality.

I have played the game superbly, problem is that the "game" is a sham.

This has a tad of elitism, but more in the "screws loose" category if you believe criminals are conspiring to keep you from owning a car.
Your enemies? The guy who wants you to be at work on time is your enemy? Or is the guy trying to make a living be selling cars?

I never said those people were my enemies, you are making assumptions.
I think I can substitute "elitism" for "Napoleon complex" in this situation.

My what incredible leaps of logic you make. Maybe you should try out for the olympics.
yet you demonstrate no effort on your own part to remedy the situation.

You have no knowledge of what I have done or not done. Again you assume, as if you think you have me all figured out when in reality you know nothing of me.

Quote #2
In response to "not everyone is out to get you" you respond:
Rebuttal:
Forgive me for quoting the same few responses, but they apply to this as well. These basically speak for themselves, as they're all generalizing blame on someone else for your inability to get a car.

First of all I never said anyone was out to get me. I have been very specific actually.

Rebuttal:
This, quite frankly, doesn't make any sense. Taking responsibility for yourself doesn't mean that you piss and moan about your "birthright," it means getting off your ass and doing what needs to be done.


And indeed I have. Yet one there are those whoo stand in my way they indeed will be brought down. They shall in the end confess to my superiority. They are not just working against me, they are working against teh natural flow of teh universe as well. They have built a house of cards on sand.


You can either continue to bemoan your luck, or do something to change it.

I find it strange how you've taken such offense to my declaration of my right to drive. I was not bemoaning, I was explaining to others the circumstances by which theives stole my right to drive and my car. My declaration doesn't harm you in any way. I wonder what vested interest you have in me not claiming my birthright?

Quote #5
So, don't apply for a job that's a 90 minute bike-ride away. Take public transportation, plead with a friend to help you out of this hole, by driving you to and from work. If you still decide to ride your bike, leave extra early in order to be presentable by the time work starts. There are so many solutions to this problem.


I have and this area is unfortunately economically depressed as it is and the few other people I know who have cars are struggling enough as it is.

You have a few problems with connecting these dots together.

This is trully the funniest thing I've heard yet.
Once again, take responsibility for yourself, and do what needs to be done to get back your car. If it's as important as you've made it out to be on this thread, then get off your ass and do something about it

I have been doing what needs to be done. Why is it you think I have not? I am more than happy to take responsibility for myself but I will NEVER take responsibility for the actions of others and I shall call them on it every step of the way.

One of the main reasons I posted the thread in teh first place was to get some things off my chest and all I find from others is a frightened "don't let masta hear you say that".
I have no master! I cannot be owned. I am liqued fire, I burn all who dare attempt to posess me.

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[QUOTE=DevilsDelight]
, but there's insurance, maintainance speed limits, old people that can't see, a lot of traffic that can cause even the best driver to lose control, people that have little regard for other drivers on the road, rush hour traffic, people talking on cell phones, speeding tickets, winter weather, rainy roads, registration, liscence renewal all wrapped up in a constant headache and state of alertness watching out for those who are not watching out for you.[/QUOTE]
I would rather deal with those things than having to walk in the rain when the bus fails to come (its done that several times in this small town) and be late for class.

I am not whining. I am focusing on a solution. Solution being a car. I am sorry that you feel the way you do and can understand that but please accept teh fact that I feel differently than you and have a right to my perceptions and opinions.

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I'm washing my hands of this thread now, because you honestly are just hearing what you want to hear. I could go on again and post replies, citing specific information from each of your posts, but since you just glossed over every relevant point of mine in your self-deluded mania, I don't feel that it's worthwhile. Enjoy your five-speed.

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[QUOTE=Crash Test Dummy]I'm washing my hands of this thread now, because you honestly are just hearing what you want to hear. I could go on again and post replies, citing specific information from each of your posts, but since you just glossed over every relevant point of mine in your self-deluded mania, I don't feel that it's worthwhile. Enjoy your five-speed.[/QUOTE]
Ah yes, an opinion is fine as long as it's yours, right:wink:

Feel free to continue when you become educated about teh nature of reality:)

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I fail to see the connection of this post and the occult.

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[QUOTE=cpmg_101]I fail to see the connection of this post and the occult.

cpmg_101[/QUOTE]LOL...it's here because there is no "Off Topic-Bizarre" or "Off Topic-Screwball" locations :p
Then again...some folks might wonder about the "Instant Magick: The Ultimate Radionics - Chi Generator" :lol:

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No one cares that you want to drive. We are all just reacting to your theatrical display of inflated self-worth. It's a car. What the flying fluck does driving have to do with a birth right? Where are all these ninja assassins trying to bring you down and chain you to 'The Manâ??? Bitch and moan that your car was stolen and you get wet going to work, but don't be a knob about it.

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Quidgyboo]No one cares that you want to drive.

Your inability to appreciate somoenes artistic verbal expresssion is not my prob.

It's a car. What the flying fluck does driving have to do with a birth right?


More than most of you can understand.:neutral:

Where are all these ninja assassins trying to bring you down and chain you to 'The Manâ???


I never said there were ninja assassins after me.....do you know something I dont?

Bitch and moan that your car was stolen and you get wet going to work, but don't be a knob about it


I'm sorry if i was a knob about it.
I thought I was being more of a handle....you know...like on a car door.

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driving is driving to me but i would like to ride a horse evrywhere since it is more reliable to me and even though it is old-fashioned i like it nonetheless. well i do have a car of my own and it is cool but im not all excited with it. to me it just kills the environment. so i would like to get those electrical cars that look like golf cars.

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[QUOTE=Wiseone]driving is driving to me but i would like to ride a horse evrywhere since it is more reliable to me and even though it is old-fashioned i like it nonetheless. well i do have a car of my own and it is cool but im not all excited with it. to me it just kills the environment. so i would like to get those electrical cars that look like golf cars.[/QUOTE]
if it was practical I too would rather have a horse. Shoot if I could open portals easily I wouldn't need a car.

So untill then......*steps out onto center downstage, turns up mike*

I Neeeeeeeed aaaaaaaaaaa caaaaaarrrrrrrr

really hard to do accapella via computer

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[QUOTE=Wiseone]driving is driving to me but i would like to ride a horse evrywhere since it is more reliable to me and even though it is old-fashioned i like it nonetheless. well i do have a car of my own and it is cool but im not all excited with it. to me it just kills the environment. so i would like to get those electrical cars that look like golf cars.[/QUOTE]
Hmmm...I'm reluctant to climb onto something that has a mind of it's own and the ability to throw me off it it wants. If I'm gonna ride something, I prefer one of my motorcycles :)

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[QUOTE=Deputy]Hmmm...I'm reluctant to climb onto something that has a mind of it's own and the ability to throw me off it it wants. If I'm gonna ride something, I prefer one of my motorcycles :)

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I would choose a motorcycle if it wasn't for the fact it rains so much here. maybe if i move to southern CA for grad school.

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yeah the only thing of here is that it rarly rains and it is mostly sunny or cloudy so this place is ideal for motercycles as many are always around. as well as a harley davidson shop near my home.

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[QUOTE=Wiseone]yeah the only thing of here is that it rarly rains and it is mostly sunny or cloudy so this place is ideal for motercycles as many are always around. as well as a harley davidson shop near my home.[/QUOTE]
If i get into UCSB for grad schhol I will get a motorcycle.

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I HAVE WON!!!! I have conquered all who have dared to oppose me in my quest for pure 100% unadulterated REALITY! I will now have a car in a week!!!!!

The reptillian fools who dared stand against me felt the cold steel of my fists smashing into their glass jaws. the reptillian hordes cried out to their vile pus filled god. Even their god was no match for my MAGICK!!!! I skillfully, slew off it's crusty tentacles, castrated it, then ripped it wide open to watch its lifeforce be sucked into the gaping abyss. IT SCREAMED! and I took pleasure in its screams and laughed heartily knowing full well that I am he who conquers! I am the Ubermensch! I am Hercules! I am Superman! I am the God-man!

the vile reptilian preists screamed of me "is he a man? is he a god?" One lifted its head off teh floor from a pool of its own blood and vomit then cried out with it's last breath
"Behold! He is BOTH!"

Their wails at the death of their god brought me pleasure! I was envied by the males, and lusted over by the females who slew themselves in grief for not having what it takes to pleasure a god such as myself!

I then stole forth from skeletal hands of the reptillian preists scrolls of prophecy. Behold the scrolls were of my coming and my success. It is prophesized that I am he who shall set the slaves free and weild a deadly viscious blow to their reptilian race.

i left their crumbling temple, leaving alive only those who understood their place and ground their own faces into the dust at my feet.

Behold! I am a driver! I am the WHEELMAN!

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Original post: Deputy

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Too many Dungeons and Dragons games Nicholas. Make sure you get insurance too.
And drive responsibly. The life you save, may be OURS.

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