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magus33 wrote: 2 i do not think the "bad" stuff that i do that i do has any relevance... they always deserve it

I'll have to disagree with that. By your own words someone decided to not help you financially and you believe they are now dead due to a curse you placed upon them. Again by your words you have a gambling addiction. It occurs to me the fellow made the right decision by not helping to feed your habit. Death should not have even entered into this equation.

Of course practicing black magic has repercussions to it no differently than practicing gray or white magic does.

Black magic requires a negative energy. To get this negative energy you must first create it within yourself. When you are full of negative energy, negative things happens.

I have no gambling stories to tell simply because I hate losing worse than anything. I'm one of those that if I happen to say,, wanna bet? You would do well to decline because I will have all your money. I only bet when I know the odds are all in my favor. If I hand money to someone, rest assured they are placing something of equal or more value into my hands.

As was advised, I'd seek help on the gambling. I'd also consider figuring out some way to rid yourself of the negative thoughts which would help rid yourself of the negative energy. No one is at fault for your addiction and doesn't deserve to suffer due to your addiction.

its not that he did not help me its the fact that he said he will and he did not.
that kind of irresponsability was inexcusable.
and, ofcourse, maybe it was all a crazy coincidence, him dying hours after i did the cursing...
but there are no coincidences, at all.

and i will not stop this "gambling" , even though i have a serious problem with it.
why ? well its very simple, i believe that through my magickal endeavours ill manage to overcome the addiction and more so , that ill manage to win constantly overcoming the odds, using the practice.

all i need is to sustain, and maintain, and improve.

all the best

magus33 wrote:its not that he did not help me its the fact that he said he will and he did not.
that kind of irresponsability was inexcusable.
and, ofcourse, maybe it was all a crazy coincidence, him dying hours after i did the cursing...
but there are no coincidences, at all.

and i will not stop this "gambling" , even though i have a serious problem with it.
why ? well its very simple, i believe that through my magickal endeavours ill manage to overcome the addiction and more so , that ill manage to win constantly overcoming the odds, using the practice.

all i need is to sustain, and maintain, and improve.

all the best

I don't believe much in coincidences either.

We will probably have to agree to disagree on this. I'm of the opinion that all of us are free to change our minds once we reflect on things. I would have had to decline myself on handing over money to you because in my mind, handing you money would be irresponsible regardless of how you chose to view it. My goal wouldn't have been to cause you harm, the intention would have been to help by not providing another avenue for your addiction.

For the rest of your message, you of course are free to follow your own path. I wouldn't propose to tell you how to work your magic. Rest assured someone telling me how to practice wouldn't fly well at all.

Without trying to sound condescending or disrespectful, the only way I can come up with to ask you to consider another point of view is to tell an old joke I once heard. It's a somewhat Christian joke but that's ok, because the joke does make a very good point.


There was once a man who believed heart and soul that the Lord would look after him. One year the weather was so bad a flood started in the valley where he lived. Everyone was advised to evacuate. The man declined saying, the Lord will protect and look out for me. Later in the day, the water level was up to his porch. A man in a rowboat came by and asked, need a ride out of here? The man declined saying the Lord would protect and look out for him. Later that afternoon the water was into his living room. Another boat happened by and asked if he needed a ride out of there. The man once more declined saying the Lord would protect and look out for him. That evening the water was up to his roof and he was perched on top of it. A helicopter came to rescue him yet he declined. Once more saying the lord would protect and look out for him. He drowned of course and when he arrived in heaven he asked the Lord; He said Lord, I have been a devout worshiper all my life. I have believed in you with all my heart and soul. Why did you allow me to drown that way? The Lord replied,,, I sent you a warning, two boats and a helicopter. You needn’t have been so hard headed.

I wish you the very best of luck my friend and hope everything turns out for the better for you.

you and others seem to have a problem.
you divide the world into good and bad. into doing good things and bad things. its all about perspective after all.

the universe is (most of the time) indiferent to our ideas of morals and ethics.

everybody has his/hers personal paradigm and acts accordingly.

Re: gambling

Postby magus33 » Sat Feb 11, 2012 10:45 am


update.

well, since i managed that incredible feat (paying off my debts) i kinda laxed, i mean the rituals and all the magic stuff.

but i did not stop this crazy gambling. this obviously resulted in an endless cycle of misery and stress.

fact is i believe there is something definitely wrong with my brain... money related ... i do not manage to hold on to money, i gamble them instantly, as if i want to lose , as if i want to feel horrible and depressed afterwards...

the second i have money in my pocket i kinda zone out and phase out any other thoughts other than gambling. i do not think of nothing else, no divination, no rituals, no bills, nor to save money for food or rent ...nothing

afterwards i kinda wake up, and ...what have i done , and i swear to myself that i wont do it again, never. and i am certain that i will stop, i am certain of it, no more
next paycheck i do it again
nope, i just gamble as if i want to lose , and i manage to chose worst value games ...as i f i want to lose the money

i managed not to make any more debts, i mean i owe small amounts that i can cover easily with my next weekly paycheck.

but if i wont stop itll get worst again.

^
THIS.

if anybody has any thoughts or advices that might help me i am open to any suggestion.

^
AND THAT.

You were answered according to the information you gave and the request you made.You were answered honestly ,based on that.

Me,I say meh,nobody is your moral arbiter,except yourself and no one else will lose anything if you choose not to take their advice.

Good luck in your endeavours anyway.

Im new here, and to be real honest this is actually my first reply /post. Not all magik is the same, some magik is more powerful than other magic. Regardless of the path you are on, a dgree of faith and belief is required. Much comes down to the practitioner, and their indvidual levels of expertise. My personal experience is that some spells work and others don't. I would suggest that you try different spells until you find one that shhows promise, and then focus on that particular spell. I think most people fail when it comes to magik because they are too busy running all over the place trying to follow multiple paths, and lets face it wandering in the wilderness will get you nowhere and serve only to confuse. Pick a path and follow it, get focused, and do not wander. When you become proficient than you can feel free to explore a little. When things do not work out, do not become discouraged, become more focused, Have faith and believe.

I'm assuming you were replying to my post Magus33. If so, I didn't take offense but here is my reply in any event to it.

magus33 wrote:you and others seem to have a problem.

No sir! I'm acting on what has served me well in the past. If what I do is defined by public consensus as immoral, things don't go well for me because for some reason I am paid back. Therefore I have very few problems since I do my best to always try and act in a moral way. One section of the King James I do agree with is "do unto others". It serves me well.

magus33 wrote: you divide the world into good and bad. into doing good things and bad things.

No sir! There are gray areas where I'll "cheat". I never even insinuated I was lily white at any time. See below for gray area's.

magus33 wrote: its all about perspective after all.

Agreed 100%. From my perspective the OP came asking for help with his gambling and from my perspetive had even felt guilty for the things he had done. I offered my help to the best of my abilities the same as other posters did. From your perspective it seems you felt as If I were judging the OP. Read on please.

magus33 wrote: the universe is (most of the time) indiferent to our ideas of morals and ethics.

Agree 100% once more. I didn't judge the OP. He judged himself by they way he worded his posts from my perspective and I offered my personal thoughts. He as I stated seemed to feel guilty of his actions, coincidentally I would have also. He was and is more than free to do with the thoughts I offered as he wishes. It's irrelevant to me what his decision is. My attempt was not to seem superior to him or anyone else, I'm not. I have zero problems trying to help someone to reside behind bars for things we would all deem illegal. I also have zero problem asking for a tad of help paying the bills. I also ask for help in other area's I would term as gray such as finding "deals" on things to help stretch my paycheck a bit. I will also shun those who lead me to believe they are nothing more than vampires that feed on others. But I do draw lines the same as I'm sure you do. I don't need to judge the decisions of anyone. It's their decision to make and it isn't my place to do so. But I do reserve the right to agree or disagree with the decision they may have made.

magus33 wrote: everybody has his/hers personal paradigm and acts accordingly.

Again we agree 100%. I don't follow certain paradigms or their teachings not because I may think they are immoral; I don't follow them because they don't feel right, may not make sense to me or I simply don't believe they will work for me. Someone somewhere may feel they need to work their magic while having sex with a flaming goat. I pity the goat but it's their magic they're working and I myself don't foresee ever taking part in such a right.

From my perspective your own statement of everybody follows their own personal paradigm tells me you believe everyone follows the paradigm of Chaos consciously or not. Again I would be inclined to agree due to human nature.

magus33 wrote:you and others seem to have a problem.

How so? We seem to agree on almost everything.

ok, ok, i was wrong , you have no problem, jeezus bleeding christ !

im taking flak like crazy.

let me try my best and if make it or break it ill let you know.

i wont post here again till the end of april, i did set a deadline for the "workings"

all the best

LOLOL! Dude for my part I don't hold any hard feelings. It's part of life and we move on. You do have to admit though, you were reminded of be careful what you ask for because it ended up smacking you upside the head.

LOLOL! Dude for my part I don't hold any hard feelings. It's part of life and we move on. You do have to admit though, you were reminded of be careful what you ask for because it ended up smacking you upside the head.

True and seconded.
My wishing you luck in your endeavours is sincere.I feel you 'll need it.Have you considered some prayers to/pacting with Good Luck entities?

Nahemah wrote:

Have you considered some prayers to/pacting with Good Luck entities?

hey , what good luck entities? even my own servitors mock and deride me ...

lol, just a little joke.

but for me this is as serious as it gets. there is no room for failure. set the deadline for the end of april. i ll see.

thanks for the advice

I dunno what paradigm you follow but one thing that helps me is to banish negative influence from myself and then draw myself into a hamster ball kind of bubble and instruct that it only allows positive influence to enter it. It's a hamster ball so it goes where I go. It may also be useful to picture your life in order and then create a servitor to help you accomplish this change.

im going better and better

i arrived to the conclusion that even though i get results with CM techniques , those results tend to be , how to put it , chaotic.
theres to much volatility involved, not enough structure... i had problems with the belief discarding part

therefore i followed nahemahs advice and and started praying to a goddess.

results were immediate.


i ll post again at the end of next month and ill give a detailed and thorough analysis

magus33 wrote:just wondering if anyone has tried gambling as a form of magical practice and whether youve had results ?

i have, and it has put some pounds in my pocket....that i really needed

i havent won the lottery yet...lol.....but im moving on up...

Actually there are quite a few tips that you could do,for luck in gambling.I've also given those recipies to many many friends and they managed to win some money (two of them got enough)...so....here they are....in a piece of papyrus place a whole nutmeg and close it with a green ribbon.Anoint it with basil oil and carry it with you,whenever you go to gamble (try to do this on a Thursday in the hour of Jupiter).Next...you can clean and program one of the following gem stones for luck and prosperity:

African Jade Attracts good luck and wealth
Amazonite Attracts good luck in gambling & enhances confidence
Aventurine (Green) Another luck enhancing "gambler's stone" & general wealth-attractor
Bloodstone Greener varieties draw money & enhance business success
Calcite Green variety draws money
Chrysoprase Brings good fortune and prosperity
Fire Opal Attracts money
Green Garnet Draws money and good luck
Lodestone Draws wealth
Malachite Brings prosperity & success in business
Moldavite Attracts wealth
Moss Agate Used in spells to attract money, find "treasure" and attract new friends.
Mother-of-Pearl Protective natural shell substance that also draws money
Fire Opal Attracts money, good luck & powerful friends
Tiger's Eye Protective stone that attracts money & good luck & enhances courage.
Tourmaline Attracts money, and enhances creativity in business.
Red or Purple Zircon Increase prosperity & protects against theft

One more tip...in Greece we say: ''Η κανέλα λέει έλα''...which means cinanmon says ''come'' !!!!!So you can sprinkle some cinnamon oil in your wallet or on a piece of paper that you will keep inside your wallet.

Now that i come and think of it,you could also invoke Fortuna,she is the Roman goddess of luck.