How Raven stole the sun

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Original post: Khoen

Hi peeps,

The story of "How Raven stole the sun" is an Native American legend. I read a short version of this story and was wondering if any one could help me to get a "long complete" version of it.

I like the story because it shows a different view of the raven and I have only read storys were he is evil.


If you know the story what do you think of it? What is better the raven as good or as evil and why's that?


Koen

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Original post: doh

I'm moving this to Indigenous Faiths. You will probably have better luck (no offense to everyone here) with folks that follow these traditions in getting an accrurate story. Well, that, and it kind of belongs there.

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Original post: Kuroyagi

dont know of this story but you got me interested- I have always found it somehow strange that in chinese mythology and folkstory trad. the raven is associated w the sun (the red raven etc)..

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Original post: WindigoXXVIII

The Raven and other tricksters arent evil, they are just crafty at teaching their lessons; they self ridicule as an example, and use irony

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Original post: Khoen

That is all very fine but I have read as much as that . I didn't read the story thou and I would like to read it.

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Original post: Khoen

http://www.boisestate.edu/art/lmcneil/

This is one story that sounded quite good to me. Don't know if it's correct but it was nice to read. The best by far.

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Original post: Sidhe

http://www.angelfire.com/ny5/spiritsong/Raven.html

http://members.tripod.com/~Koreen/me/raven.html

http://members.aol.com/Art1234567/Raven.html


---I've heard some veration to all of these...
In the ones I've heard, the one who kept the sun/stars and moon to himself was either a greedy mean, stingy chief, or a wicked sorcerer...

And the Raven was originaly all white, on his stealing of the sun he was burned and smoke blacked, his curse for doing it was that forever after all ravens would be blacked, removing them of their pure white feathers...

General theme and moral to the story are the important things, every story teller gives the tell a slightly differant way after all...

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Original post: Sub Rosa

I enjoyed this thread

Here is something you might enjoy-
Ravens Curse

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Original post: pAmphAge

Growing up in New Mexico I actually got to hear (and see) some of these stories in elementary school back in the day :-) thanks for the links.