Original post: azalooper
I have a friend who just raidates masses of energy i have tried to explain to her if she could learn a little about channeling it the right way maybe all the chaos that always surrounds her might stop. Her answer to me is god is real and the rest is rubbish. she is by no means a "churchie" but she refuses to believe in anything else. i have a friend who is a wicca and even she told me the energy she gives off is incredible. please can some one give me an idea or point me in the right direction to help my best friend out. Thanks azalooper
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Original post: Frater Manjet
Why press to convert her from her beleifs? It sounds to me as if she is tolerant of your views, I say afford her the same respect.
She obviously is aware of what you beleive and isn't interested... The world is full of people trying to shove some religion or world-veiw on us... do you really want to be one of them?
If you are dead set on changing her convictions you could always try red hot pokers and thumbscrews... oh wait that was the inquisition, sorry my bad.
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Why press to convert her from her beleifs? It sounds to me as if she is tolerant of your views, I say afford her the same respect.
She obviously is aware of what you beleive and isn't interested... The world is full of people trying to shove some religion or world-veiw on us... do you really want to be one of them?
If you are dead set on changing her convictions you could always try red hot pokers and thumbscrews... oh wait that was the inquisition, sorry my bad.
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Original post: Crash Test Dummy
I have to agree with Frater Manjet on this one. If she's content with her beliefs, there's no real need to change them. Your belief structure is no more valid than her's is.She obviously is aware of what you beleive and isn't interested... The world is full of people trying to shove some religion or world-veiw on us... do you really want to be one of them?
Well, it's kind of hypocritical that you say she "refuses to believe in anything else," while you're intolerant her chosen religious path. It works both ways.Her answer to me is god is real and the rest is rubbish. she is by no means a "churchie" but she refuses to believe in anything else.
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Original post: Anubis RainHawk
I have seen many people who have a very strong magickal potential, but chose not to explore it. As much as I would want them to tap into it, they do not. You have to be able to accept his/her choice.
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I have seen many people who have a very strong magickal potential, but chose not to explore it. As much as I would want them to tap into it, they do not. You have to be able to accept his/her choice.
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Original post: SirNaelyan
...what chaos, exactly, is surrounding this person in question?
The religious tolerance thing, while important, should have a little less importance if this energy is causing actual problems...
...what chaos, exactly, is surrounding this person in question?
The religious tolerance thing, while important, should have a little less importance if this energy is causing actual problems...
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Original post: Daleth
Sounds to me like you're trying to meddle in something that, quite frankly, isn't your business. If the problem is hers, then it's hers to solve. If your help isn't wanted, then I don't see why you're trying to force it on hers. Let people live their own lives, and focus more on living your own.
Sounds to me like you're trying to meddle in something that, quite frankly, isn't your business. If the problem is hers, then it's hers to solve. If your help isn't wanted, then I don't see why you're trying to force it on hers. Let people live their own lives, and focus more on living your own.
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Original post: azalooper
I also was brought up a "christian" but realised there was a lot more out there. The problem is that she emits such a strong energy that negative forces attract to it like a moth to the light i am not trying to push my beliefs on to her. I just wish she could see the emence effect she gas on any person who crosses her path good or bad.
I also was brought up a "christian" but realised there was a lot more out there. The problem is that she emits such a strong energy that negative forces attract to it like a moth to the light i am not trying to push my beliefs on to her. I just wish she could see the emence effect she gas on any person who crosses her path good or bad.
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Original post: SirNaelyan
Aza: If she's into God like you say she is, then convince her to pray for help, since it is affecting the world around her in bad ways. she probably won't go for the whole occult thing unless you show her examples of the occult from the Bible that aren't directly carried out by God. If she thinks god is all, then she should turn to god for help, correct? show her how the problem is affecting people outside herself so she will know why it needs to come under her control, or diffuse in full. Maybe that way she will actually ask god for help in solving the matter...or turn to the occult, whichever comes first.
Aza: If she's into God like you say she is, then convince her to pray for help, since it is affecting the world around her in bad ways. she probably won't go for the whole occult thing unless you show her examples of the occult from the Bible that aren't directly carried out by God. If she thinks god is all, then she should turn to god for help, correct? show her how the problem is affecting people outside herself so she will know why it needs to come under her control, or diffuse in full. Maybe that way she will actually ask god for help in solving the matter...or turn to the occult, whichever comes first.
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Original post: cpmg_101
azalooper
To be frank, I don't see the emergency here. However, if you do want her to pay attention to her power, you could do something to tip her head over heels for a while. Just remember though, no matter how much power she has, if she constantly give it out, she will soon be burned down to ashes. Make sure that she learns to control her body energy.
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p.s. God is real, the rest are all fake? Why do I hear that from a lot of christians?
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To be frank, I don't see the emergency here. However, if you do want her to pay attention to her power, you could do something to tip her head over heels for a while. Just remember though, no matter how much power she has, if she constantly give it out, she will soon be burned down to ashes. Make sure that she learns to control her body energy.
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p.s. God is real, the rest are all fake? Why do I hear that from a lot of christians?
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Original post: azalooper
[QUOTE=SirNaelyan]...what chaos, exactly, is surrounding this person in question?
The religious tolerance thing, while important, should have a little less importance if this energy is causing actual problems...[/QUOTE]
yes it is causing problems in her life and also sometimes mine. but very importantly everybody else who crosses her path. I have seen guys do things when she is around that they would noramlly never do. i love her dearly and would love to help her. I am not trying to shove my beliefs down her throat, i just want her to have a good life that she deserves. If i may give you an example. Her ex boyfriend refused to return her son after one weekend so we set about getting a recorvery order from the courts to get him back. We to the court at 2.30pm the court closes at 4.00pm. We get told we probably have to come back in two weeks but just wait until four maybe it will be heard. Ten minutes later we get heard and gets granted the order the guy in the office says he has never seen a case get pushed trough so quickly. So we get her son back, now she is really pised at the ex. He goes out the next night breaks into a local swimming pool cops rock up by chance in the middle of it try to grab him he fights by.(this guy is as weak as piss and has never hit any onein his life but her.) So any way the cops subdue him, arrest him it goes before the court next day and he gets 3 years jail for breaking amd entering and resisting arrest. this was the second time he was caught for b & e. it may just be a coincedence but i find it hard to believe. this is not the first time really bad things happen to those who wrong her. this is just one example. Now can you see why i would like to help her because what you give out always comes back three fold. I just want her to be prepared thats all. azalooper
[QUOTE=SirNaelyan]...what chaos, exactly, is surrounding this person in question?
The religious tolerance thing, while important, should have a little less importance if this energy is causing actual problems...[/QUOTE]
yes it is causing problems in her life and also sometimes mine. but very importantly everybody else who crosses her path. I have seen guys do things when she is around that they would noramlly never do. i love her dearly and would love to help her. I am not trying to shove my beliefs down her throat, i just want her to have a good life that she deserves. If i may give you an example. Her ex boyfriend refused to return her son after one weekend so we set about getting a recorvery order from the courts to get him back. We to the court at 2.30pm the court closes at 4.00pm. We get told we probably have to come back in two weeks but just wait until four maybe it will be heard. Ten minutes later we get heard and gets granted the order the guy in the office says he has never seen a case get pushed trough so quickly. So we get her son back, now she is really pised at the ex. He goes out the next night breaks into a local swimming pool cops rock up by chance in the middle of it try to grab him he fights by.(this guy is as weak as piss and has never hit any onein his life but her.) So any way the cops subdue him, arrest him it goes before the court next day and he gets 3 years jail for breaking amd entering and resisting arrest. this was the second time he was caught for b & e. it may just be a coincedence but i find it hard to believe. this is not the first time really bad things happen to those who wrong her. this is just one example. Now can you see why i would like to help her because what you give out always comes back three fold. I just want her to be prepared thats all. azalooper
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Original post: Sud Ram
You can try to get her interested in something more "neutral" than magic such as Yoga or meditation which does not necessarily involve religious beliefs but rather works on consciousness.
If she really doesn't want to know, then let it be.
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You can try to get her interested in something more "neutral" than magic such as Yoga or meditation which does not necessarily involve religious beliefs but rather works on consciousness.
If she really doesn't want to know, then let it be.
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By the way, what does your wicca friend know about her?
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By the way, what does your wicca friend know about her?
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my wicca friend has not met her, but i have spoken to her and she is very interested in meeting her.
my wicca friend has not met her, but i have spoken to her and she is very interested in meeting her.