Original post: natas666
i was on their site and..they sound xtian, father satan?and the stuff about aliens and all that is weird..who the hell (no pun intended) are they?
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Original post: Odonata
Could you clarify just a tad by providing a link or a handfull of quotes or the like?
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Could you clarify just a tad by providing a link or a handfull of quotes or the like?
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Original post: hendo555666
The joy of satan website matey boy:
http://www.angelfire.com/empire/serpentis666/HOME.html
And they are who they say they are!!!Everything you need to know is on the site!!
The joy of satan website matey boy:
http://www.angelfire.com/empire/serpentis666/HOME.html
And they are who they say they are!!!Everything you need to know is on the site!!
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Original post: hendo555666
heres a little quote from their mail order section that might help answer your question though:
The Tulsa Main Post Office ILLEGALLY interferes with our mail. WE HAVE CAUGHT THEM IN THE ACT REPEATEDLY, IN SPITE OF COMPLAINING TO THE ATTORNEY GENERAL AND FILING NUMEROUS FORMAL COMPLAINTS. They are full of xian employees who feel they have the *right* to break the law in the name of their so-called "god."
heres a little quote from their mail order section that might help answer your question though:
The Tulsa Main Post Office ILLEGALLY interferes with our mail. WE HAVE CAUGHT THEM IN THE ACT REPEATEDLY, IN SPITE OF COMPLAINING TO THE ATTORNEY GENERAL AND FILING NUMEROUS FORMAL COMPLAINTS. They are full of xian employees who feel they have the *right* to break the law in the name of their so-called "god."
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Original post: Skeptismo118
I'm going to be blunt.
They're a bunch of useless tools looking to heap delusions upon obscurity.
Consider them a result of the stratification process set off by the internet any pay them no more attention then you would the muck at the bottom of an empty fishtank.
I'm going to be blunt.
They're a bunch of useless tools looking to heap delusions upon obscurity.
Consider them a result of the stratification process set off by the internet any pay them no more attention then you would the muck at the bottom of an empty fishtank.
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Original post: kouya
Taking all that other stuff aside, their techniques and ways of performing energy use or "magick" is actually quite practical and blatant for the most part, somewhat dangerous to a mild degree but useful to discerning individuals.
Taking all that other stuff aside, their techniques and ways of performing energy use or "magick" is actually quite practical and blatant for the most part, somewhat dangerous to a mild degree but useful to discerning individuals.
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Original post: hendo555666
Yup, regardless of what you feel about them as an orgenization, there's alot of handy info on their site.
Yup, regardless of what you feel about them as an orgenization, there's alot of handy info on their site.
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Original post: Skeptismo118
Eh? Threetime removed copies of other people's material, crap translations of Yezidi texts and visualization methods right out of Newage seminars is "dangerous...but useful?"
Jeez...maybe all that talk about the degneracy of the Age the Traditionalistis go on about is right afterall...
Eh? Threetime removed copies of other people's material, crap translations of Yezidi texts and visualization methods right out of Newage seminars is "dangerous...but useful?"
Jeez...maybe all that talk about the degneracy of the Age the Traditionalistis go on about is right afterall...
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Original post: zeta.omega
The Joy of Satan site is steeped in a lot of hogwash, their philosophy is mixed with neo-Nazismm, and they sound like reverse fundamentalist Christians. They believe in Satan as a literal entity, the true creator god of all of us. They believe that we were created by genetic engineering, etc. They seem like a bunch of complete crap theories all mixed together, from the theory that aliens created us [they believe that the nephilim were aliens] to their own theory on how the jews have created Christianity to blind and control the masses using the removal of occult knowledge as a means of control. It's rubbish in my opinion.
My largest beef with them is the recommend an immediate dedication ritual to Satan, which is most definitely not for everyone. It ma y work for some, very few of us, but most definitely not all of us.
I wont deny that a decent amount of the magickal information is applicable, however. They most certainly have applicable things on the site, just don't fall into the trap of taking their world view seriously. They manage to give fundamentalist Christians a run for their money.
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As an offhand, why is it lately that every time I start to think about a topic, a thread will appear on here about it? It's happened with Aset Ka, JoS, the nature of gods, the "becoming a real vampire" thread basis idea and a couple others. It's getting creepy. Soon as I start to wonder a thread appears about it. Cool as hell, but wierd.
The Joy of Satan site is steeped in a lot of hogwash, their philosophy is mixed with neo-Nazismm, and they sound like reverse fundamentalist Christians. They believe in Satan as a literal entity, the true creator god of all of us. They believe that we were created by genetic engineering, etc. They seem like a bunch of complete crap theories all mixed together, from the theory that aliens created us [they believe that the nephilim were aliens] to their own theory on how the jews have created Christianity to blind and control the masses using the removal of occult knowledge as a means of control. It's rubbish in my opinion.
My largest beef with them is the recommend an immediate dedication ritual to Satan, which is most definitely not for everyone. It ma y work for some, very few of us, but most definitely not all of us.
I wont deny that a decent amount of the magickal information is applicable, however. They most certainly have applicable things on the site, just don't fall into the trap of taking their world view seriously. They manage to give fundamentalist Christians a run for their money.
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As an offhand, why is it lately that every time I start to think about a topic, a thread will appear on here about it? It's happened with Aset Ka, JoS, the nature of gods, the "becoming a real vampire" thread basis idea and a couple others. It's getting creepy. Soon as I start to wonder a thread appears about it. Cool as hell, but wierd.
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Original post: hendo555666
Quote:
Heehee!!that would be fun!!
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Heehee!!that would be fun!!
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Original post: L_Lawliet
[QUOTE=natas666;256973]who the hell are they?[/QUOTE]
People with no sense of humour.
[QUOTE=natas666;256973]who the hell are they?[/QUOTE]
People with no sense of humour.
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Original post: hendo555666
Ciao Lawliet come sta?
well on the subject of the JoS you never replied to my comment about the use of incense. Dov'e???
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Ciao Lawliet come sta?
well on the subject of the JoS you never replied to my comment about the use of incense. Dov'e???
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Original post: Satanic One
Joy of Satan is a load of shit and those who say the magic information is informative need to pick up some good books. All that's there is phoney baloney fiction, psuedo witchcraft, and neo-nazi indoctrination. Here's a link that should help to explain this joke of a site.
http://satans-powers.tk/
Joy of Satan is a load of shit and those who say the magic information is informative need to pick up some good books. All that's there is phoney baloney fiction, psuedo witchcraft, and neo-nazi indoctrination. Here's a link that should help to explain this joke of a site.
http://satans-powers.tk/
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Original post: hendo555666
wow!!i feel realy bad for posting that link now!!Just started reading that link satanic one, but even from the outset!!alowing a 14yo boy join,and making him a High Priest at 15!!
wow!!i feel realy bad for posting that link now!!Just started reading that link satanic one, but even from the outset!!alowing a 14yo boy join,and making him a High Priest at 15!!
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Original post: Azakel
[QUOTE=Satanic One;257308]Joy of Satan is a load of shit and those who say the magic information is informative need to pick up some good books. All that's there is phoney baloney fiction, psuedo witchcraft, and neo-nazi indoctrination. Here's a link that should help to explain this joke of a site.
http://satans-powers.tk/[/QUOTE]
Thank you for the link Satanic One. I've read the JoS site before and all was found it kind of wired, fun, and strangely interesting in it own way. But that link made thing a lot more clear on them.
[QUOTE=Satanic One;257308]Joy of Satan is a load of shit and those who say the magic information is informative need to pick up some good books. All that's there is phoney baloney fiction, psuedo witchcraft, and neo-nazi indoctrination. Here's a link that should help to explain this joke of a site.
http://satans-powers.tk/[/QUOTE]
Thank you for the link Satanic One. I've read the JoS site before and all was found it kind of wired, fun, and strangely interesting in it own way. But that link made thing a lot more clear on them.
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Original post: natas666
thanks satanic one i thought something was odd
thanks satanic one i thought something was odd
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Original post: eradark
[QUOTE=Satanic One;257308]
http://satans-powers.tk/[/QUOTE]
That anti-JOS website is a lot of made-up bs. You people actually believe some nobody who takes all this effort to create a website and write tons of crap. I have to ask myself, what's in it for them? Apparently there must be. I read JOS' writings, they're OK, I didn't notice any fiction there. JOS are against Christians and jews. What I don't understand is everyone can be against christianity but when someone is against Jews as well, you get offended? Even if some of JOS members are nazi sympathizers, so what? Who are you to say what others should believe in and views they should hold. That kind of communist mentality is not part of Satanism.
[QUOTE=Satanic One;257308]
http://satans-powers.tk/[/QUOTE]
That anti-JOS website is a lot of made-up bs. You people actually believe some nobody who takes all this effort to create a website and write tons of crap. I have to ask myself, what's in it for them? Apparently there must be. I read JOS' writings, they're OK, I didn't notice any fiction there. JOS are against Christians and jews. What I don't understand is everyone can be against christianity but when someone is against Jews as well, you get offended? Even if some of JOS members are nazi sympathizers, so what? Who are you to say what others should believe in and views they should hold. That kind of communist mentality is not part of Satanism.
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Original post: hendo555666
Ok first, your calling this guy a nobody, but he wasnt a nobody was he!!he was a prominent member of the church from early on in its history, when maxine snatched him from his cradle, and made a high priest at 15, which is utterly disgusting!!
Secondly many of us here are ex-christian, and still bear the scars, so excuse our apathy!!And as for the jews, well they killed that nazarene bastard and gave us the Kabbalah, so they aint all bad are they!!
Thirdly, if you dont see a problem with ant-semitism in satanism(or any occult system)then i dont think you belong on this forum, there's plenty of neo-nazi sites you can piss off to, thats not saying we want to press our views on people, but this forum is about open mindedness, not narrow minded bigotry
Ok first, your calling this guy a nobody, but he wasnt a nobody was he!!he was a prominent member of the church from early on in its history, when maxine snatched him from his cradle, and made a high priest at 15, which is utterly disgusting!!
Secondly many of us here are ex-christian, and still bear the scars, so excuse our apathy!!And as for the jews, well they killed that nazarene bastard and gave us the Kabbalah, so they aint all bad are they!!
Thirdly, if you dont see a problem with ant-semitism in satanism(or any occult system)then i dont think you belong on this forum, there's plenty of neo-nazi sites you can piss off to, thats not saying we want to press our views on people, but this forum is about open mindedness, not narrow minded bigotry
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And judging by the fact thats your first post im assuming you only signed up to the OF.com to put your tuppence woth in and cause trouble!!
Is that you maxine????
And judging by the fact thats your first post im assuming you only signed up to the OF.com to put your tuppence woth in and cause trouble!!
Is that you maxine????
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Original post: eradark
[QUOTE=hendo555666;257468]Ok first, your calling this guy a nobody, but he wasnt a nobody was he!!he was a prominent member of the church from early on in its history, when maxine snatched him from his cradle, and made a high priest at 15, which is utterly disgusting!!
Secondly many of us here are ex-christian, and still bear the scars, so excuse our apathy!!And as for the jews, well they killed that nazarene bastard and gave us the Kabbalah, so they aint all bad are they!!
Thirdly, if you dont see a problem with ant-semitism in satanism(or any occult system)then i dont think you belong on this forum, there's plenty of neo-nazi sites you can piss off to, thats not saying we want to press our views on people, but this forum is about open mindedness, not narrow minded bigotry[/QUOTE]
Don't swollow everything you read on the internet. To me, it sounds like a lot of BS what he wrote. It does seem believable, doesn't it? It doesn't mean it's true. If there would be no Jewdaism, there would be no Christianity or Islam. People should be against judaism as much as they are against christianity if not more. No, I don't see a problem with anti-semitism in satanism. Just like I don't see a problem with anti-christianity in satanism. So what is the problem you speak of ? Your obviously don't understand nazism to begin with thus you call it narrow minded. When in fact the opposite is true. As for "there are plenty of neo-nazi sites you can piss off to" comment. I'll take it as sarcasm. Obviously the narrow mindedness applies to yourself. So what other righteous, ethically-correct dogma are you going to spout?
[QUOTE=hendo555666;257468]Ok first, your calling this guy a nobody, but he wasnt a nobody was he!!he was a prominent member of the church from early on in its history, when maxine snatched him from his cradle, and made a high priest at 15, which is utterly disgusting!!
Secondly many of us here are ex-christian, and still bear the scars, so excuse our apathy!!And as for the jews, well they killed that nazarene bastard and gave us the Kabbalah, so they aint all bad are they!!
Thirdly, if you dont see a problem with ant-semitism in satanism(or any occult system)then i dont think you belong on this forum, there's plenty of neo-nazi sites you can piss off to, thats not saying we want to press our views on people, but this forum is about open mindedness, not narrow minded bigotry
[/QUOTE]Don't swollow everything you read on the internet. To me, it sounds like a lot of BS what he wrote. It does seem believable, doesn't it? It doesn't mean it's true. If there would be no Jewdaism, there would be no Christianity or Islam. People should be against judaism as much as they are against christianity if not more. No, I don't see a problem with anti-semitism in satanism. Just like I don't see a problem with anti-christianity in satanism. So what is the problem you speak of ? Your obviously don't understand nazism to begin with thus you call it narrow minded. When in fact the opposite is true. As for "there are plenty of neo-nazi sites you can piss off to" comment. I'll take it as sarcasm. Obviously the narrow mindedness applies to yourself. So what other righteous, ethically-correct dogma are you going to spout?
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Original post: natas666
lol everyone needs to chill, as satanists you all should remember what you believe is up to you, its about the supreme self. worry about your own reality, to hell what anyone else thinks.
lol everyone needs to chill, as satanists you all should remember what you believe is up to you, its about the supreme self. worry about your own reality, to hell what anyone else thinks.
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Original post: eradark
[QUOTE=natas666;257475]lol everyone needs to chill, as satanists you all should remember what you believe is up to you, its about the supreme self. worry about your own reality, to hell what anyone else thinks.[/QUOTE]
Very good point.
[QUOTE=natas666;257475]lol everyone needs to chill, as satanists you all should remember what you believe is up to you, its about the supreme self. worry about your own reality, to hell what anyone else thinks.[/QUOTE]
Very good point.
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Original post: Satanic One
Ah the bullshitty joser, always amusing.
Jos is a system based on NEW AGE information (corrupt hindu , tantric, and buddhist teachings), fictional works of Zechiaria Stitchin, neo-nazi ideology, and the mad ramblings of the wife of the ex-president of the national socialist movement Andrea Herrington who uses the name Maxine Dietrich.
True satanism is about free thought but this isn't. It's a cult where if you don't listen to Andrea who can "talk directly to satan" your kicked out or labeled a jew. If you actually buy into this then you really should be in a christian church.
If you don't like someone you better have a good reason other than believing in that new world order bullshit.
Oh and eradark if that site really is bullshit PROVE IT!!! Oh and here's another link from another ex jos clergy member Diana Vera
http://www.theisticsatanism.com/politic ... index.html
Expand your mind you idiot.
Ah the bullshitty joser, always amusing.
Jos is a system based on NEW AGE information (corrupt hindu , tantric, and buddhist teachings), fictional works of Zechiaria Stitchin, neo-nazi ideology, and the mad ramblings of the wife of the ex-president of the national socialist movement Andrea Herrington who uses the name Maxine Dietrich.
True satanism is about free thought but this isn't. It's a cult where if you don't listen to Andrea who can "talk directly to satan" your kicked out or labeled a jew. If you actually buy into this then you really should be in a christian church.
If you don't like someone you better have a good reason other than believing in that new world order bullshit.
Oh and eradark if that site really is bullshit PROVE IT!!! Oh and here's another link from another ex jos clergy member Diana Vera
http://www.theisticsatanism.com/politic ... index.html
Expand your mind you idiot.
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Original post: hendo555666
Six Million Jews Slaughterd, Thats Why You Fucking Prick!!
Six Million Jews Slaughterd, Thats Why You Fucking Prick!!
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Original post: hendo555666
[QUOTE=natas666;257475]lol everyone needs to chill, as satanists you all should remember what you believe is up to you, its about the supreme self. worry about your own reality, to hell what anyone else thinks.[/QUOTE]
And thats bull, no one wants a racist skinhead on here!!Its guys like that who give Satanism a bad name!!!
Take your copy of Mein Kampf and shove it up your arse, my country didnt fight in ww2 to let Nazi twats like you roam around upsetting everyone!!
YES!!SATANISM IS ABOUT FREEDOM OF THOUGHT!!BUT THERES A LINE!!A LINE YOU WOULD LET A PEDOPHILE CROSS!!!SO WHY LET A NAZI!!
[QUOTE=natas666;257475]lol everyone needs to chill, as satanists you all should remember what you believe is up to you, its about the supreme self. worry about your own reality, to hell what anyone else thinks.[/QUOTE]
And thats bull, no one wants a racist skinhead on here!!Its guys like that who give Satanism a bad name!!!
Take your copy of Mein Kampf and shove it up your arse, my country didnt fight in ww2 to let Nazi twats like you roam around upsetting everyone!!
YES!!SATANISM IS ABOUT FREEDOM OF THOUGHT!!BUT THERES A LINE!!A LINE YOU WOULD LET A PEDOPHILE CROSS!!!SO WHY LET A NAZI!!