Astral/dreamwalking rape

awriterscorned · Post by **awriterscorned** » Thu Apr 16, 2009 6:27 am

I know this sounds like a campy n00b topic, but after spending several years not knowing what was happening to me, someone I didn't know ended up giving me information that a person I knew was using methods like this to sexually assault people. I tried to converse with her (without mentioning my suspicions) and she threatened me with further attacks. I lay this groundwork to say I know I'm an astral/dreamwalking/not sure which rape survivor, and I'm not just a n00b troll trying to make outrageous claims and I was wondering if anyone else here has experience with that.

I figured out some shielding, protection, defense, etc after a long while but I HAD been shielding when it happened, just not well enough I guess. I know all that...and I've even shared my experiences with my therapist who seems to believe there is legitimacy to them, and to a rape survivor network volunteer at RAINN and she also believed/validated me. The protection and the auric cleansing doesn't make the pain of "this happened and there is no possible way to seek any kind of legal justice and 99% of people even occultists won't believe me" go away.

Loads of Wicca 101 books nod to the idea by saying, "love spells targeting a specific person are bad cuz that's psychic rape," but surely if there is psychic rape there are psychic rape victims who deserve a voice. I only know one other, online.

Vashta · Post by **Vashta** » Fri Apr 17, 2009 6:28 am

I must say, that sounds awful. I could imagine that it would be too easy for a psychologist to dismiss it as nonsense, but it's a very positive thing that they seem to be treating it exactly the same as they would if it were physical.
And you're absolutely right, the victims of this abuse deserve a voice.

awriterscorned · Post by **awriterscorned** » Sat Apr 18, 2009 6:04 am

Thank you for that. I've been on forums where I've gotten some really nasty feedback like "why the hell wasn't your shield up???" or "are you sure you weren't just flattered by the attention and didn't just let it happen??????"

In my opinion, shields aren't always 100% effective and the creator of the shield isn't always in the best mental state to keep it up. I'm trying to find more people who have had this experience to sort of create some community around it but it's very hard to do.

Nahemah · Post by **Nahemah** » Sat Apr 18, 2009 3:39 pm

My perspective: someone who can threaten you or dominate you in the conscious realm can easily enough get through to your sub/unconscious self also.Whether you see this as psychic attack,mental manipulation,astral vampirism etc. dosen't so much matter as learning methods of prevention and fighting back do.Don't just be a survivor become a warrior,then be a winner.[my opinion and advice]

Can you go lucid? if not,learn how,there are many methods,techniques and systems out there which will be useful to you.Take the time to master as much of your inner mind as you can.It will be such a useful learning experience for you anyway,even if you never experience attacks like this again.These kinds of folk tend to prey on/victimise those who are already vulnerable in some way.Depressed folk or those who've recently suffered in life in some way.First part sound like the person you described at all? Sound like you in any way,re the vulnerability? Heal from it,learn from it and use what you learn to help yourself and then others.Make it part of the journey of your life,own it.

Shields,wards and protections,to your own paradigmic tastes will help,but you deal with this best by becoming stronger,mentally and psychically than the attacker and then you can choose whether to dish it back [keeps you tied to that negative person,but if you're the vengeful type you may not mind that?]leave a warning note: i.e invade them,but be ethical about it[my style,lol] or even go with resting secure in the knowledge you can deal if you have to in the future.

Have you got this person you mentioned out of your life? If not you should,shut 'em down,break the links and so on,physically IRL.You can do that kind of thing ritually too,I'm not sure on the details,I have my own methods : cord cutting[?]to break the dream/astral links too.

I think many Occultists/Magickians will have had to deal with the shadows of the mind and no doubt may or will have encountered similarly predatory or unsavoury types/personalities,who will try to come through the Dreamstate/Astral for attacks etc.Maybe not? But I recall previous onlne discussions where this seemed rather common at one point.I'm sure others here[ Shaam? Azzerac?,others too,but you two guys really know your stuff] will have wise words for you on this.

I know some techniques and protections,it's been a while for me,but I'll go look for some info I think I have somewhere.

I agree that shields don't always work,so I will go with the 'come on in,if you think you're hard enough' mindset,it's my dreamscape and I control it.hey I'm Glaswegian,after all[ some styereotypes are accurate,lol].But of course I have my weapons at the ready,should that seem likely.I trained hard.It's worth it.
You should be able to sleep safe in your own home,that is a right not a priveledge in my book.I am not a fan of the 'take by domination' types.

Kath · Post by **Kath** » Thu Apr 23, 2009 6:46 am

I agree with Nahemah.

I've gotten to a point that I no longer get upset about dream content though. I have an open invitation to 'nightmare' oriented entities, simply because I enjoy their creativity, and it gives them a sort of forum to act out their nature without repercussion. But you don't arrive at an attitude like that if you're approaching it from a position of weakness/helplessness. Instead I pushed things to the other extreme and actually managed to earn the spiritual equivalent of 'street cred'. and in more recent years i've made efforts to be more easy going. I'll compliment someone/thing invading my dream for their artistry in doing so.

as for dream 'rape'... eh, I dunno, when i'm dreaming, lucid or not, or obe, I'm fairly "rough & tumble" about things. something which would be very upsetting to physically occur, just doesn't get under my skin very much in a dream. It may be distressing, but I can't say its nearly in the same category as physical sexual assault. If you want something which is really invasive & hurtful for the dreamscape, then I'd say that invading a person's free will would be the 'rape' of the nonphysical realm. having the sovereignty of your consciousness & free will invaded/dominated is IMO more of a direct parallel with physical rape. rape is more about power IMO than sexuality.

Are these rape dreams sexual in overtone? or is sexuality more just the backdrop for a sort of violating domination/malice? because I'd consider those 2 very different sorts of dream content.

also, you'll want to delve very deep into your own mind on this... I had a girlfriend who had deeply repressed rape fantasies, and this would in turn affect her dream content, and I'm sure was not unrelated to her submissive bondage tastes. it's something you'd have to seriously consider I think. discerning just how much of the dream's content may or may not be coming from some part of your psyche which you've pushed away from the conscious part of your mind. I'm not saying that this is the case, just that you'd be remiss if you didn't ponder this possibility deeply.

also I'd emphasize what Nahemah said about avoiding adopting a victim mentality. that may even be the root cause of all of this. you constantly weave magic, with your unconscious mind, directed by your thoughts and words... you're constantly working with the law of attraction whether you intend to or not. So just be very aware of the undertows in your thoughts & feelings, you want to be directing them, not being directed by them.

Shaam · Post by **Shaam** » Thu Apr 23, 2009 10:44 am

I agree with Nehmah too. Kath gives great advice, as well.

My perspective: someone who can threaten you or dominate you in the conscious realm can easily enough get through to your sub/unconscious self also.Whether you see this as psychic attack,mental manipulation,astral vampirism etc. dosen't so much matter as learning methods of prevention and fighting back do.Don't just be a survivor become a warrior,then be a winner.[my opinion and advice]

This is very true. One of the main things you should do, and I know you will probably think this is a little mundane..lol, is to really learn those methods of prevention (grounding/centering/shielding..etc.), as well as some protection techniques. If you are not shielded enough to withstand that sort of attack, you are not equipped to withstand any other type of attack either. I would recommend that you not put yourself in a situation where an attack could take place, until you are fully equipped to deal with it.

Also the rape has left you shaken, feeling violated, and vulnerable. From what you are indicating, you are still shaken and uncertain in a personal respect. As long as you allow this to control you, you can't pull out of it. You have to be the one in control and take yourself back.

Knowing yourself, learning proper ways to ground/center/shield as well as some methods to protect yourself...can only really work, if you are strong in yourself. You are the power behind your protection.

If this was a sexual dream where this was a sexual fantasy gone wrong, then you need to guard against purposely allowing yourself to have those kinds of dreams. Now, I know they crop up now and then...they sure do.

There are ways to psychically attack, but you are the power behind the attacks. If you are still feeling violated..you are allowing this to control you. You need to make peace with it. It happened...but it won't happen again. Focus on yourself as you know you are, a strong person who knows themselves. Have you cleansed and grounded since the attack...there could still be a bit of residue hanging on. Also, make sure your link/connection to her is completely broken.

Learning better ways to ground/shield and center will help you in this, as well as with other possible astral attacks. It also will help you in real life.

Nahemah had a good suggestion with the lucid dreaming. This would allow you to participate in the dream and protect yourself. I am hesitating (don't know about the others) to give you any actual methods to use, until I'm sure you have worked thru your emotional issues.

I know of a few astral rape incidents, but few really speak out. I commend you for doing so.

I know you can do this:)

awriterscorned · Post by **awriterscorned** » Wed Aug 12, 2009 8:52 am

I know it's not a sexual dream gone wrong. I've had those before. A lot of those and they are nothing like astral/dream rape. When I met the person who did this, I was 16 for one thing, I was naive, I was innocent, I didn't understand sex at all, and yes I suffer from clinical depression. That's something a lot of occultists don't get, they have the attitude of "get over yourself." I've seen therapists, taken meds, done rites and meditations, etc but some of depression is a much grander journey than people give it credit for. If balancing your will and "getting over yourself" were easy goals, more people would have done it by now.

That said, yes it was very sexual in nature. I would try to fight back and literally have ZERO power to affect her in any way, despite having been fairly good with lucid dreaming and somewhat successful with astral travel in the past.

This is all just me being defensive probably needlessly so I'll stop. It's an unpleasant thing to talk about because the therapist turned out to not actually believe me or think it was possible, but to be "entertaining my wrongness" while trying to steer me away from it and saying very hurtful things in the process.

As for "be a warrior," I'm working on that note. I know this person has raped other people in the flesh and possibly in the astral too and it looks like our legal system is going to do nothing so it's a goal of mine to be the change somehow, even if it does pull me down a bit. Of course I'm researching this and I don't go about any magical working lightly anymore (too much of that when I was younger).

Thanks for the replies. The hard thing is, the trauma any rape survivor has is difficult and I really did try to rule out EVERY possibility under the sky before I would consider it rape (and there's a long story about me figuring out that it's probably the closest to the truth). It's hard to deal with the aftermath and pain and balance that with the need to be above your desire. It takes a lot of focus and self-checking but I suppose that's part of what magical discipline has always been for me.

Oracle619 · Post by **Oracle619** » Mon Feb 01, 2010 6:54 am

i belive that your a crazy lil fat boy,and need HELP!

Post by **Venefica** » Mon Feb 01, 2010 8:16 am

Stop being bothered by it. If this is really happening then most likely the attacker is fed by your negative reactions and you being upset. Convince yourself it is a dream. I know that is hard to do but try, then laugh at it. To laugh is one of the most powerful banishments there is. You defining yourself as an astral rape survivor gives your attacker power over you, laugh in their astral face instead.

Rikoshi · Post by **Rikoshi** » Mon Feb 01, 2010 9:47 pm

I'll try to be brief. It's hard for me to immediately take this seriously as I've met many an occultist with martyr/victim complexes who, when they activate their own magick a bit without control, incidentally create their own demons and nightmares, tormenting themselves, ie., imagined attacks quickly gain real power. But I will do my best to treat this as being real. Tools I would use given your situation.

Psyching yourself Up:
After a particularly nasty magical attack on myself, I didn't let myself give up- I used it as fuel to take action. Not always easy, but if you are too weak as you are to do anything about it, you should make the effort to transform yourself, spiritually, mentally, and physically if need be, to take on the challenge. The mantra I used:

"The body is the earth, set to action by the fire of the mind, tempered by the water of the spirit, and exposed to the cool air of evil. I am alchemical steel."

This worked- my defenses were bolstered and my magic became sufficient to deal with the problem at hand.

Other transformations of use may include astral journeys, meeting with one's power animals/spirit guides, gaining the blessings of gods and goddesses.

Linking:
Links are a two way road- if the voodoo doll can affect the person, a powerful person can effect the doll. If this person attacked you on that level, they left a mark leading straight back to themselves- if you want to put them in their place, remember you have this tool. A binding would not be out of the question if you have the power- if you don't...

Group Ritual AKA Psychic Gang Beating:
If you don't have the power, get help from people who do. A few people working on a very attuned ritual often have far more power than any single person would. Bringing in the help of spirits or other mystical entities is certainly not a bad idea. Just as in the mundane world, the police work in units for a reason, and generally, they win.

Using Whats At Hand:
If some of this feels out of your grasp due to your depression, I would recommend USING your depression. You've dealt with it your entire life, and you've been strong enough to carry on despite it- those who haven't dealt with it are not as well prepared. If you want to ensure this person won't bother you again, use that link and SHARE your depression. It might even lighten your load, and could make them think twice about messing with you lest you drown them in a sea of your own despair.

Gandridur · Post by **Gandridur** » Tue Apr 06, 2010 12:51 am

Ok this is my first post here exept for the my introduction. I jump right into the subject and hope none here mind that.

As I see it there are are two versions to this. Either this is true or you believe it is true. Version one: Let me explain. I have met many different people in the occult world during the years and one undoubted truth is that the occult world attract some people that shouldnt work with magic at all. Instead they should take their meds,therapy etc. I have never seen those ever got better. Most of them keep being as unhealthy, depressed, destructive etc. as they were from the beginning, or worse. To work magic you need to be balanced. You cant be balanced if you are clinical depressed. Its impossible!!! Mild depression is ok but not deeper ones. Its better to avoid magic until it becomes better enough.

Let me also asure you that I dont judge you or your mental situation. I have known people that have been so depressed that they comitted suicide. Hell I had my share of spiritual cricies. Nothing strange being depressed. Unfortunately we live in the western world where depression today is seen as a sickness that should be avoided and that being happy IS the meaning of life. Those mentally unhealthy that I have met have nearly all of them made up strange stories. Let me give you an example. A girl wanted my help to stop the attacks of some aliens with scarfs that wanted to kill her. In her world this was of course true and the aliens were for real. Unconscious forces can become so strong that they appear to be real outside forces. That happens when they come through a gate from the unconsciousness to the conscious. When that happen they wont be forced down again.

Unconscious forces that are so strong feels like they are separated from you. Remember monks that live in monasteries and in celibat, denying their fleshly desires. They have recurring nightmares being raped by either seductress beautiful or ugly evil looking female demons. Deny something and it only will become stronger. In denial lies a great force. That you deny will one day crawl up to the consious and it wont be pleasant. Maybe should also take a look at your own sexlife. Do you believe sex to be sinful and dirty? Brought up with parents who believed that? Do you deny yourself sex? Do you have a sexlife? Have had sex at all? If not why? Very strong wishes of having an active sexlife? Sexfantasies that are harmful for you? etc etc.

Your own forces cant be exorcised, only integrated. Trying to exorcise them is denial. Nietzsche, in his masterpiece Those spake Zarathustra, said something like this: Are you possessed by a demon? Well bring up the demon to do great achievements for you. Or compare with monsters that chase you in a dream. If you stop and ask why they are chasing you they will change appearance and the chase and attack will be over. To know something is to master it. This is true even with outside forces. Vampiric forces can be mastered once you know them. Then they will work for you and not against you.

Version two: this is a true story. Yes there are those magicians that feed on others energies by astral rapes. Very unusual but they exist. Yes many magicians find that ludicrous and make a rash conclusion that its all fantasies. At the same time many magicians on and off believe that they are under the spell or attack of other magicians or entities. Did anyone say contradiction? Those that know their kundalini know that this belong to the Ida channel and can feel the Ida being active when that happen. No problem as long as you know there are no outside attackers(mostly). Being sceptical is a must for any serious magician, witch or whatever you choose to call yourself. Now attacks from entities do exist. And if you work e.g. with sexmagic and dark forces at the same time you will attract outside forces too. Most of them are subconsious but some are not.

Either you are sane and this do happen or you have mental problems that should be solved in the munde world in other ways. Or maybe both are true? As they say "even paranoids have enemies". Anyway if this is true you have allready got good answers from others here. Being a victim means you dont know yourself enough and that you lay responsibility for your life in others hands. Thats lazyness and cowardice. Easier? Yes but a dead end. Sounds like I am harsch? Yes but I once was like that when I was younger so I know what Im talking about. And I had so called friends that were vampires too to that used me.I realised the hard way they could only do that becuase I allowed it (unconsious). People will respond to what you are sending out to the world. They will treat you as you treat your self. You get what you wish and get what you believe you deserve. Being negative with low self-esteem and low faith in yourself is a sure way of attracting vampires(me in the past). And as in vampire movies and litterature, they can only enter your home if you allow them to.

Post by **Venefica** » Wed Apr 14, 2010 1:23 pm

I have met many different people in the occult world during the years and one undoubted truth is that the occult world attract some people that shouldnt work with magic at all. Instead they should take their meds,therapy etc. I have never seen those ever got better. Most of them keep being as unhealthy, depressed, destructive etc. as they were from the beginning, or worse. To work magic you need to be balanced. You cant be balanced if you are clinical depressed. Its impossible!!! Mild depression is ok but not deeper ones. Its better to avoid magic until it becomes better enough.

First of all I have had depression all my life and my magick practice works just fine. I do not in any way agree that one should not practice magick if one have a depression. First of all magick is often therapy and can often assist professional therapy. Depression is an illness like any other and it do not exclude someone from working magick. Magick is not just there for the elite and flawless if they even exist. Let me tell you something it is impossible to be completely balanced if one is a human being and living in the physical world, all one can do is do what one can to be as good a person as possible. Secondly being depressive do not equal being destructive.

Let me also asure you that I dont judge you or your mental situation. I have known people that have been so depressed that they comitted suicide. Hell I had my share of spiritual cricies. Nothing strange being depressed. Unfortunately we live in the western world where depression today is seen as a sickness that should be avoided and that being happy IS the meaning of life.

I think you mix together being sad with being depressed. Being sad is natural it is a part of healthy human emotion and all of us are sad now and again. Depression is however a sickness. Depression is not being sad, depression is something not working right. Let me see if I can explain. My grandmother had a illness which would sometimes make the nerves in her face signal pain when there was no wound or no reason for the pain, it was a rather problematic condition for her and quite painful. Depression is the same thing, it is a misfire or a over reaction in the brain to create a feeling of sadness, being down, despair or just plain a lack of energy where such a reaction is either to much or not supposed to be at all. It is the same as with anxiety, the brain misfired and signal fear where there is nothing to be afraid off. And yes both depression and anxiety is illnesses and should be avoided.

Those mentally unhealthy that I have met have nearly all of them made up strange stories. Let me give you an example. A girl wanted my help to stop the attacks of some aliens with scarfs that wanted to kill her. In her world this was of course true and the aliens were for real. Unconscious forces can become so strong that they appear to be real outside forces. That happens when they come through a gate from the unconsciousness to the conscious. When that happen they wont be forced down again.

What you describe here is not depression, it is delusions. I doubt strongly every mentally unhealthy person you have met have been delusional. However most mentally unhealthy pepole you have met you would never know. It is not common for depression, anxiety and most other common mental ailments to be delusional. That being said, who is to say Spiritual methods might not work to banish such delusions. After all in the old times pepole believed such things where evil Spirits or in other words, one person's delusions is another person's Spirits, and one person's madman is another person's seer. Off course one should also seek out professional psychological aid. However as occultists I think we should be open for the possibility that there might be more than one explanation for something.

Version two: this is a true story. Yes there are those magicians that feed on others energies by astral rapes. Very unusual but they exist. Yes many magicians find that ludicrous and make a rash conclusion that its all fantasies.

I agree, this is quite possible. However to actually perform astral rape that feels like and experiences like actual rape that requires a good bit of power and expertise, it is not something one fin in the beginners books to say it like that so it is rather rare, but it is fully possible and one should not ignore the possibility. I also agree that having low self esteem and thinking about one self as a victim will make it much easier for such an attack to occur. But strengthening the self it is much more easy to keep it safe as well.

Nahemah · Post by **Nahemah** » Wed Apr 14, 2010 2:55 pm

There is a big difference sometimes,between possible and probable.I couldn't say for sure,what is going on with the OP so I chose to treat the matter as a real occurence and answer to suit.The 'attacks' may well have been auto suggestion in motion,sometimes that is all that's needed,if the 'victim' is vulnerable or in a weak mental state already. It's cruel,but it happens and it can work very well.The point being,the OP believed it was a real occurence.

Depression is not a bar to Magickal practice,in my opinion,too.I agree some folk practise when they should be resting,when their mental state is not conducive to it and it can have kickback.But then,that can happen to the strongest of us,anyone can over reach themselves or go too far too fast,it's live and learn.

We should not seek to put all mental illness into a 'can't do' dogma.The Occult is not a one size fits all,or exclusive club.Folk will find and do,whether we think they should or not.Much the same as in all aspects of society and life.

Many world class comedians,actors,writers,artists and other creative types suffer/have suffered from manic depression and other mental imbalances,should they not have shared their genius with the world because of it,our world would be an uglier place.

Post by **Venefica** » Wed Apr 14, 2010 5:09 pm

I think past of the problem is that when someone mentions mental problems pepole immediately begins to think that it is dark and negative and destructive. In almost all movies where there are pepole with mental problems, they are either pitiful, self destructive and have to be saved or dangerous. This is just not the case in real life. Depression is an illness it can be a bitch to deal with sometimes, however it do not define a person or make them dangerous or dark, it is just an illness.

Chaplain · Post by **Chaplain** » Tue Mar 15, 2011 10:56 pm

Oracle619 wrote:i belive that your a crazy lil fat boy,and need HELP!

haha you talking to me?

I joined this forum especially from reason of this topic.(Please forgive me my weak english, i hope reading wont be annoying) Rape reminds me how stupid kid I was to trust one of my teachers to much. (and how stupid i am to write this;) It is truth, world is full of trash people who belive they are great magic masters. It's time to understand: people like them started WW2. (ok truth is the are less dangerous, because in fact they can't kill like A. Hitler with his friends;) Don't bother yourself about "shield". I think many techniques dont really work at higher levels. IMHO Beter belive in yourself not in shields. You can't imagine how hard for me was to not kill her (and she is so ungrateful) but i today i think rapists rather dont deserve death (and i shoudn't waste next 20 years in prison

.

Strange religion groups are dangerous for anyone, nothing new (and it sounds pathetic) people areally know that. Freedom of religion shoudn't be greater value than people's life and i belive one day our beloved elites will understand.

Anyway you are not alone

but i sometimes want to kill them all it is very hard for me.... mayby someone must, to show how wrong they are. (May God forgive me)

And i would suppose occultist or a group who dont realy like you. (because i belive it was a person you trusted) of course I can be wrong im only a human. For me worst in it is that I wasted to much time on it. That's why i am despered to write this message. nothing is wrong with you, it was real.

i belive nothing is secret, you are victim, but you are also witness of real power and you know what

we all have a lot of skills about which very freaquent we dont even know. we arent ready;)

Chaplain · Post by **Chaplain** » Fri Mar 18, 2011 2:06 pm

btw i am impressed how usefull your anwers are. i was forced (by such strange situation) to trust only to myself. but i still have a questions: 1) why so many people just want to contact me in real world just to talk for a while, is it kind of training or what? 2)why people who done it to me dont want to talk with me no longer? (kind of superstition?) 3)why tf we cant talk normally? (this is stupid)

and at least final question: does rape benafits raptist with something more than realisation of his sick perversion?

i must say i became agressive because of that, if someone can explain this paranoid to me it will never be forgotten.

after i analise whole "project" i can say it took them many years just to bainwash me on many diffrent ways. wasnt that just waste of time (for me and for them)? technique was effective, it was based on destruction of my personal faith and replacing it by their schemes

i was a kid, it was some sort of luck that i didnt killed myself. by today i cant say it was anything more than realisation of their idiotic beliefs....

once more: should i punish her for that. she is a witch XD today i start to belive that people shoud burn us both, i should die because i was foolish enough to lisen her, much more people suffer than only I. it was like colateral damage. noone can belive me and i cant even say nothing in public because catolic church failed in its mission hundreds years ago

Chaplain · Post by **Chaplain** » Wed Jun 01, 2011 12:15 pm

rukawaka, You know what? I am negatively surprised. you dont know nothing about me. I am far over it. hovever it is evry man dream.
is there no righteous person on this forum, to write anything about previous post?? isuppose
tell my why other guys on forum took normal anwser and i didnt? did i done anything wrong?

"Do yo know who i am? I'm the man who gona burn you house down!" lol

And what i am supposed to do with cialis? take it and rape a girls who raped me before? for few hours? it dont have any sense cause she is a bich a she won't even suffer.

You missunderstand me, and i don't know how to explain that to people who done it to me they are fuckin weak. in stories about satanist rape we haver powerfull groups who have a seats in goverment. but not this time. i have few shity persons who think they can decide about me, what is funiest thing actually hapenig. they imagine themeselves as undefetable and they share this faith with dead SS soliders. Im so sorry because two about 26yo girls charmed me as i was 16. she was like a whore when she told how much she loves me. she imagine she is my father - she is piece of shit. i dont want to hurt anyone, i wont earn nothing on death of fools. but im also want them to end their funny game in esoteric order. for me they are like stupid spoiled 36yo teenagers. but they dont want to listen, they belive the deserved it. they are trash still happily existing among us damanging our society, only because noone care. i promised i will do something with them, but i dont have any sensibile idea... (if you have any write it) btw this case was possible to end in a month, but ten years later they still ignoring me (keep going), I saved their pathetic lifes. what an ingratitude....

i was insane i lost many yerars, i guess in my case it didnt happend same way as you write.

anyway i must sorry you - you are first two persons who ever anwserd me. humanity6 is proud of you.

Trent · Post by **Trent** » Wed Jun 15, 2011 6:33 pm

Are you still being raped?

Chaplain · Post by **Chaplain** » Sun Jun 19, 2011 1:50 pm

Trent wrote:Are you still being raped?

why are you asking? if you can share any theory with us, then write an i will anwser.

mainly i am strongly dissapoited because of traitorus attack of chaos. i came as a friend but they made me similar to "Malleus" author, it make me sad. it is not the way i chosen long time ago. didn't we learned anything from inquisition? today we live in open society, big advantage over dark ages when only chosens had access to knowlege. i don't want this history to end with massacre... but the last question is how much stupid way was inquisition provoked?

.... and the last conclusion, big power don't necesserly goes with big responsibility... chaos, yes, chaos and slavery. this will happend to world if nobody will stop those plague - spreding of "new religions"

"We found a witch! May we burn her?
A witch? How do you know she's a witch?
She turned me into a newt!
A newt..?
I got better.. "
lol

o people, mayby such experience is even worth of being raped
to understand why god of abraham hate womans. to ask why today we call medieval dark ages if people understand half less than before?
to understood inquisition older than monoteism, to see how much they want somebody to ride over them with tanks...
we have such potential, gift. and why? WHY we using it mainly for fun and to make stupid tricks?

Chaplain · Post by **Chaplain** » Wed Oct 03, 2012 4:12 pm

I made some progress on my road to understand a phenomenon astral rape is. I spend a lot of my time so now I want to share. Of course it is just a short version. The less you know, the longer you will live. Just listen to J. F. Kennedy last speech, some things just can’t be explained, to the moment in history it becoming possible.

It's not like you think…

First important step was made accidentally - crap happened - my "work" raped my friend, however I didn’t intend that (btw he is a boy and I still prefer woman after all

. Way he described this event makes me 99% sure it was the same rape. This way I can say it is not necessary to do anything special to spread astral rape on the other, it is a contagious mental disease, strange because only some people may witness. Personally I don’t believe it can just be made by someone. Why? "Experience" like this cerate itself when child with "psychic" talent is raped in reality - that is it's mental scream – punishment for an evil world we all created.

Ward of an orphanage leading an occultist group is rather bad combination (this part story everyone can imagine). As I helped my friend, finally I can understand why she didn't helped me. Although many stories about “satanic rape” were created, there is no reason in such evilness at all. We are just different. She is a mental psychopath - so called "witch". Don’t get me wrong, I met many “gifted” women (where I would be today without them?) and they aren’t like that… Witch, if powerful enough, may change into evil mastermind. People under influence of such woman, her sect, may change into dangerous deviants like Mordred or Adolf Hitler. And jet it is all still far from being explained by a science, more, scientists usually explaining it wrong way so it won’t be easy to repair...

So next time when you read in newspaper about a man who killed a woman, know that it is not necessarily effect of his sexual deviations, but sometimes because of HER.

I can bet 1000 years ago I would became an inquisitor… I know it may be hard to understand, it would be like “The name of Rose 2: Return of the young monk.” But today I must say – If something wrong will happen to you just wait, don’t waste your own life to punish a witch…

And dont rape kids for god sake, because in Soviet Russia kids will rape you! [cool]

Last VERY FUNNY thing i want to add - ALL PEOPLE WHO CAN RAPE YOU WERE RAPED BEFORE, so this "event" is most freaquently spread by "people" (if they can be called so) who come from lowest social class or people who were raped by them. And i am even sorry because of women who did it to me. It is rather sad to compare her childhood to my. Refused by own parents, with no friends, raped and turned into psycho. Girl who raised in such conditions just can't be normal woman after all. I wonder i could help. I my world people usually helping each other.

Chaplain · Post by **Chaplain** » Wed Oct 03, 2012 7:13 pm

Bdw i my old super secret sect (about wich i told everyone [yay]) someone told me about very symilar mystery on 21-st level of initiations, i don't know he didn't lie...

So mayby i even should be grateful, i don't know... most possible i wouldn't be so angry if would be able to find a satisfactory explanation... but no they allways must act their magical way. To the hell with them, they secrets, their will and their degenerate organisations. With a special dedication to J.F.K.

The very word "secrecy" is repugnant in a free and open society; and we are as a people inherently and historically opposed to secret societies, to secret oaths and secret proceedings. We decided long ago that the dangers of excessive and unwarranted concealment of pertinent facts far outweighed the dangers which are cited to justify it. - J.F.K.

Have a nice day!

I am not very stable today, but of course I am for a reason. If people can move psychic experiences like a rape, people who are powerful enough can move something bigger and even much more destructive. It is final achievement for every inquisitor, cruel and evil but necessary, till the day all will understand. Personally I know only one person who is able to do such a thing, and I feel totally not worth of knowing him....

I demand exterminatus.

QN · Post by QN » Wed Nov 21, 2012 9:25 pm

The pain is not supposed to go away, that would be like a baby crawling back into the womb.

Around earth is a global consciousness, this consciousness is 100% you and contains a lot of suffering. To be cut off from these feelings is like having supressed memories.

Also this entire universe from beginning to the end of its time has already happened and represents a single point in a much grander construction. There are accesible dimensions where space itself is the entire spectra of emotion experienced in these simulations. Pain isn't an evil to be avoided, she is an essential ingredient to everything.

The complaint that you aren't believed is like a kindergarden graduate complaining there's no one to discuss her new math homework with. There is, be patient and meditate.

Chaplain · Post by **Chaplain** » Thu Nov 22, 2012 2:55 am

I wonder i am pathetic and naive beeing i was before. I wonder i can realy feel again. Strange religions are theating our freedom but thanks to me, people will stand against those nazis. I can't really know your intentions but shit you are talkin about isn't worth even a minute of thinking about. It is beacse it is, but it giving us nothing for time we wase on it. "To be or not to be" it is about acting, not about homework noone want to do.

Do you know what i see in them? People who can't decide who they are and don't have any freedom of will. World would be such a wonderfull place without their strange religions. Meeting them was a dangerous wasting of time wich leading us all to pointless genocide.

Beacause they will rebirth to attack mankind again and again. I don't really want to live on this planet anymore. At some point consciousness is no longer privilage of the few but a coertion of observaton for this sad construct to exist in real.

It was extreamly same experience in my case, it allways is. Preety seriously, you have a wonderfull life until you meet them and their silly ideas. In fact it allways leads to nothing but to the ultimate destuction of man. Protecting the other people life is crurrently most reasonable for me. No man can even imagine how much he have, until those damned females won't come. [bummed]

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