Why do you believe this stuff?

Chosef · Post by **Chosef** » Sat Sep 19, 2009 6:12 pm

I mean what is the point.

Is it just to be rebellious because your mean parents made you go to church when you were a kid?

Is it just because being a satanist is cool because he's like the ultimate rebel or what?

I mean what is the point other than to be bad ass trolls who wear weird customs and do strange rituals and well basically it's just a way to troll christianity and the establishment by giving them the middle finger.

I mean do you really think Satan is a good guy or what? Do you think he exists? Has he like ever come by and hung out with you? Does satan only hang with the cool crowd who are like into art and self-expression and all that stuff or what?

Oh and is Satan gay? I know he can appear as a woman and and she can appear as a man and it is actually adrogynous and doesn't have any genitalia because I saw it on a marilyn manson album but whatever I mean why are you into it and can you really give a valid explanation for it other than it's your way of getting back at your parents because they were mean and neglected you and didn't give you all the things you wanted? Or what?

Oh don't get angry now you are powerful and I'm just an ignorant fool so please be kind for surely Satan would not want you to do anything foolish now would he.

Post by **VenusSatanas** » Sun Sep 20, 2009 10:56 am

Why do you believe this stuff

Believe what stuff? No I dont believe the nonsense that you're spouting.

I mean what is the point.

The point of what? Your ridiculous rant? Besides taking up space on the internet?

Is it just to be rebellious because your mean parents made you go to church when you were a kid?

I was not raised as a christian, nor did my parents ever care what my religious preferences were.

Is it just because being a satanist is cool because he's like the ultimate rebel or what?

For some, yes. I would also imagine that a minority of Christians claim to be Christian just to keep up appearances, and look good in other people's eyes. I mean, you troll internet forums to impress your friends, dont you?

I mean what is the point other than to be bad ass trolls who wear weird customs and do strange rituals and well basically it's just a way to troll christianity and the establishment by giving them the middle finger.

How many books on satanism have you read? How long have you studied it? If you are confused, and have ignorant presumptions about satanism, have you considered that you don't yet understand what it is? Could that have ever crossed your mind? Naah.

Not all satanists are anti-christian. some, like me, could care less.

I mean do you really think Satan is a good guy or what? Do you think he exists? Has he like ever come by and hung out with you? Does satan only hang with the cool crowd who are like into art and self-expression and all that stuff or what?

No satan isnt a guy. satan is recognised as many things, none of them for being a male human. Your post is seeming very trollish. it's hard to not laugh as i write this.

Oh and is Satan gay? I know he can appear as a woman and and she can appear as a man and it is actually adrogynous and doesn't have any genitalia because I saw it on a marilyn manson album but whatever I mean why are you into it and can you really give a valid explanation for it other than it's your way of getting back at your parents because they were mean and neglected you and didn't give you all the things you wanted? Or what?

Satan is whatever you want it to be. If you want to imagine Satan as gay then have at it! You go!

And as far as childhood, I lived a very good childhood, provided with all the things that i wanted and needed. perhaps you describing the people you know that you hang out at the mall? you know, the mallcore crowd?

Oh don't get angry now you are powerful and I'm just an ignorant fool so please be kind for surely Satan would not want you to do anything foolish now would he.

Im not angry. i see ignorance just like you've expressed, every single day. you act like you're the first. lol.

1) you cling to popular christian ideas of what satanism is AND
2) you want to stir up trouble.

my suggestion: Get yer head out of your arse, stop looking like an idiot, and go educate yourself and do some research so that you don't come here to a forum and look like a total ignorant n00b who is teh obvi0u5 troll.

Mist · Post by **Mist** » Sun Sep 20, 2009 11:15 pm

Nice troll, kinda easy to use, though, the Christian bullshit.
You even had me typing away, but halfway there I stopped caring.
Try to be a bit more original when trolling.
But I forgive you since this is the troll pit, after all.

This is what I was typing:

"I mean do you really think Satan is a good guy or what? Do you think he exists? Has he like ever come by and hung out with you? Does satan only hang with the cool crowd who are like into art and self-expression and all that stuff or what? "

Replace "Satan" with "God" and ask yourself the same questions.

"Oh and is Satan gay? I know he can appear as a woman and and she can appear as a man and it is actually adrogynous and doesn't have any genitalia because I saw it on a marilyn manson album but whatever I mean why are you into it and can you really give a valid explanation for it other than it's your way of getting back at your parents because they were mean and neglected you and didn't give you all the things you wanted? Or what? "

... you saw him on a Marilyn Manson album. Read that again and try to think twice.
If you see an 8-legged purple pig with black wings on an album cover, are you going to act like "Oh my, this is how Satan looks like! We must destroy all pigs!". This makes as much sense as your assumption.

Seriously man, I couldn't care less about what a person believes in, but if you downgrade another person's beliefs with such pathetic assumptions that is really low, and it is this very same attitude that makes a LOT of people resent Christianity in the first place.

Chosef · Post by **Chosef** » Mon Sep 21, 2009 12:10 am

Now now don't get angry Good ol Nick knows I was just kidding tongue in cheek

I know his power and he knows i know

no need to throw hexes and curses ya knows

I was but jesting have mercy I was bored and nothing ever goes on in this forum.

Mist · Post by **Mist** » Mon Sep 21, 2009 12:12 am

Well, a lot of things have already been said, and spoken about. Why don't you scoot through the archives and try to dig up an interesting topic to give rebirth to?

Chosef · Post by **Chosef** » Mon Sep 21, 2009 4:21 pm

Maybe.

You'd think I was just joking though if I told you I met the devil. Or crazy. Or lying.

So I will just say we had a good long talk and umm, it was an interesting hallucination and complete fabrication of my imagination.

Post by **VenusSatanas** » Mon Sep 21, 2009 6:03 pm

Have you been diagnosed? :lol:

Nahemah · Post by **Nahemah** » Mon Sep 21, 2009 6:16 pm

"You'd think I was just joking though if I told you I met the devil. Or crazy. Or lying.

So I will just say we had a good long talk and umm, it was an interesting hallucination and complete fabrication of my imagination."

Perhaps,but at least it sounds interesting.Care to elucidate anyway? Bear in mind this IS an Occult forum and many of us would be considered crazy or lying or otherwise deranged by more orthodox religious types of folk etc.

Folk do post here,but the forum is fairly new,other than the archives,so it needs some fresh input,don't complain about it, if you don't want to contribute to it,seems an appropriate sentiment,no? [I'm making a point not insulting you,ok? And please do read in the archives too,there is many a topic with mileage still left to be explored there.]

fleshcrafted · Post by **fleshcrafted** » Mon Oct 26, 2009 3:54 am

Post by **Venefica** » Mon Oct 26, 2009 11:43 am

The original poster here is probably a troll, however one think I always tell pepole who piss nonsense out of his mouth like he is. What do you think is the difference between a Christian prayer and a spell? Both are a way to try to get a Spiritual force to give us something. Some might see it as influencing Energy, others as asking the Spirits for help, and others see it as asking a God for help. But it is the same thing, trying to influence the physical world by Spiritual means.

Naya · Post by **Naya** » Wed Dec 09, 2009 1:30 pm

I wouldn't put it past a Christian to actually NOT be trolling, but to really mean what he said there whole-heartedly. So, if he's a troll, then don't feed it (or do, if you enjoy that sort of thing.).. and if he's really just that retarded, don't bother explaining. It'll be like talking to a refrigerator.

Post by **Venefica** » Sun Dec 13, 2009 10:37 am

Naya why would not not put it past a Christian to not be trolling. There are idiots in all religions, but I have not really met more Christians who are idiots then others. It is no telling what religion if ever the original poster is. He is just an idiot who like to try to piss pepole on forums off for no good reason.

Naya · Post by **Naya** » Sun Dec 20, 2009 7:03 pm

Because I have, first hand, heard many Christians say equally retarded things in complete stone-faced seriousness.

darkwolf · Post by **darkwolf** » Mon Dec 21, 2009 1:31 pm

Naya: So? I've heard buddhists spout crap in all seriousness, and wiccans, and satanists of all stripes, and mormons, and muslims. Spouting crap is what humans like to do a lot on the inter-tubes. Seriously, just let this thread fade into obscurity, like it should.

Post by **Venefica** » Mon Jan 25, 2010 1:15 pm

I just have to share a post from my blog I wrote a while back after meeting some idiots online. it is so fitting to this discussion.

Let me begin by saying that this blog post is not an attack on Christians. I respect Christianity fully and I think it is a wonderful religion. I am considering going to Church regularly in addition to my other Spiritual practices. Yes I am multi religious. This however is a sigh of frustration over those few Christians who believe that anyone who do not believe exactly like them are Satanist, and that feel the need to pester everyone, insult others religions and generally be a nuisance in an attempt to show their narrow minded religion down everyone else's throats to save us all. Bah!

I met two such lovely gentlemen lately. One worse than the other. The first spewed the standard trite about how I was a Satanist because I am a Pagan and an Occultist. On how I did not know it myself but I was worshiping Satan. The boy obviously had no idea of either Occultism or Satanism but was rather dodgy when I asked him the simple question of how he had gotten these pearls of wisdom he was spreading around. The truth off course is that he had gotten his "knowledge" from fear and hate and had never used in mind in his life. He was only repeating the idiotic trite that his minister would spew out. Now Normally I do not mind such idiots. They mean well I just say no thank you I do not need to be saved and moved on. But when pepole come into occult forums just to spew such vomit, that annoy me. They have obviously not learned a modicum of respect for other pepole or other people's religions. But then why would they show us any respect, in their short sighted, narrow minded, hate filled little minds they have the only truth, and no one else deserves any respect, for they know it all, after all their minister told them so.

Then there is the other guy. And oh boy was he a gem. Not only was Occultists and Pagans Satanists, but Muslims, Catholics and well yes everyone who did not believe like him was Occultists and Satanists. Well that every religious person is an Occultist, I can agree with that, after all in every religion there is communication with and a trying to understand the Spiritual, and that after all is magick, is Occultism. I am however rather sure many will disagree with me on this and that is fine. However to this little idiot I met's mind, everyone, including other Christians who did not belong to the same Tradition as himself is an Satanist. Hehe you should have seen how angry he was when I mentioned my belief that every religions person, including him is an Occultist and use magick, most enjoyable.

Anyway let me get back on track and get to the good part. Now this crazy man says that my religion and well everyone he sees as a Satanist which is every religious person who do not follow his own narrow path, sacrifice three children every year. Or let me correct that, at least three children every year. Right. I almost laugh my ass of, seriously do pepole like that really exist. People with beliefs so completely stuck in the dark ages? Obviously they do. Wonderful.

Now just for fun let us examine this person's claims. Let us say we are all Satanists, every religious person who who is not a part of his tiny group. Ok that is at least two thirds of the earth's population. So according to him two thirds of the earth population sacrifice at least three children every years. Wow, a wonder there are children, not to mention a human race left. Wonderful, do these guys even think? The answer off course is no, they do not.

Now I have many Christian friends. The man I am to marry is a Christian. I like Christians and then it is so annoying when brainless, idiotic twits like these two go around ruining it for every other Christian out there. After all what is it that feed the hate of those Atheists which is completely rabid against any form of religion? People like those two I mentioned here. And it is a damned shame. Now off course everyone have the right to believe as they want. So if you dear reader want to believe that I am a Satanist and sacrifice children and that this site is as one of my dear idiots put it a Satan Page, then go ahead. But I also have the right to say stop the hell insulting other religions, stop given Christians a bad name. Read a bit, do not just bend over and take it up the ass from your minister, he is not God, he is a man and he is not all knowing, get some knowledge, make up your own mind and above all else, get a fucking life!

PRINCEFREAKASSO · Post by **PRINCEFREAKASSO** » Mon Mar 15, 2010 9:24 am

Stupid question this really! Do you believe you're the legitimate child of your parents? Do you believe in History,Science,planets anything for that matter?Unfortunately people who know little,involve in a lot.Cut the faecal! Believe in yourself,the rest will appear to you naturally.....PRINCEFREAKASSO

PRINCEFREAKASSO · Post by **PRINCEFREAKASSO** » Mon Mar 15, 2010 9:44 am

Most people are like the Nerd,he runs with the herd,spewing out words so absurd~Princefreakasso
Many ignorant people run around,saying so many things.When you understand only little about something or someone,it becomes natural that your thoughts are half done.Mysticism is the key to the Universe......But to make the sushuma rise and awaken the kundalini power,takes the skill of a master Tantrist who has both the physical spill and the mental skill, to tune his opposite polarity,Shakti the female element to such an extent,that she bursts orgasmically into a billion shards,far more prismatic than meteor showers.All other forms of power building are weak in comparison.Only a true preceptor,trained in the Himalayas can teach you the secret doctrine of the white light of power,sought by many but in the possession of few.Power! That makes the impossible,possible....PRINCEFREAKASSO

Philoneus Bosch · Post by **Philoneus Bosch** » Mon Mar 15, 2010 7:29 pm

Congratulations, you've got a belief! Now get back under your bridge, the billy goats are coming!

Post by **Venefica** » Tue Mar 16, 2010 12:16 pm

Most people are like the Nerd,he runs with the herd,spewing out words so absurd~Princefreakasso
Many ignorant people run around,saying so many things.When you understand only little about something or someone,it becomes natural that your thoughts are half done.Mysticism is the key to the Universe......But to make the sushuma rise and awaken the kundalini power,takes the skill of a master Tantrist who has both the physical spill and the mental skill, to tune his opposite polarity,Shakti the female element to such an extent,that she bursts orgasmically into a billion shards,far more prismatic than meteor showers.All other forms of power building are weak in comparison.Only a true preceptor,trained in the Himalayas can teach you the secret doctrine of the white light of power,sought by many but in the possession of few.Power! That makes the impossible,possible....PRINCEFREAKASSO

Okey, not that I disagree with you my sweet, but what did this have to do with the rest of the tread? If you want to discuss Kundalini why not make a tread for it?

PRINCEFREAKASSO · Post by **PRINCEFREAKASSO** » Wed Mar 17, 2010 4:20 pm

Hi Philoneus,I've actually got many beliefs.It would be too claustrophobic to say I had but one.Been practicing from a child,and more or less gifted.Been student of the best guys and gals,both western and eastern.The Billy goats are always welcome to the party,provided they bring their better halves along.People always differentiate between Mephisthopeles and God.
In reality they're just "brothers in arms" battling it out in a game of chess,one black and the other white.Each wins some,loses some.As it's a lot easier for black to spoil the colour white,God looks after the day,but our friend looks after the night.By the powers of the midnight hour......PRINCE

Post by **Venefica** » Wed Mar 17, 2010 4:27 pm

Are you using a program like bable fish or something like that? I do not intend to be mean and please excuse me if I sound that way but part of what you are saying sounds more like randomly strung together words and nonsense, could you try one more time to get across what you wish to say?

PRINCEFREAKASSO · Post by **PRINCEFREAKASSO** » Wed Mar 17, 2010 4:40 pm

Oh,Venefica of the darkest night,perhaps you didn't quite read me right.
Yes you beautiful raven of the dark ones haven,I too walk on the path not paven.~Princefreakasso

Wasn't really discussing kundalini here,because thats a huge subject that needs a lot of explaining.Was just talking about blackart in general.Just like everything else,blackart too exerts its force in ascending degrees.Right from childlike spells to killing rituals,they all have their fair share of grimoire.
From simple things like candle and poppet magic to human and child sacrifices,magicians resort to all kind of solutions to attain their objectives.Anyway until next time,by the light of the new moon.....PRINCE

PRINCEFREAKASSO · Post by **PRINCEFREAKASSO** » Wed Mar 17, 2010 4:49 pm

True witches are always cryptic,they never let you comprehend their thoughts,it's your skill only that helps you read between the lines and try to decode the script.Witches and black magicians always try to pull you into the open,where you are susceptible to their invasions.They understand that "a chain is as strong as it's weakest link"....PRINCE

Philoneus Bosch · Post by **Philoneus Bosch** » Wed Mar 17, 2010 7:59 pm

Instead of posting in the Troll Pit why not open a new discussion? Looks like you've got a lot to talk about, Prince. If Eastern mysticism and magic's your thang then go for it pal, start a new thread, I'm sure some of the people here would be very interested to read about your experiences and philosophies.I know I would.

SINGULARITY · Post by **SINGULARITY** » Tue Sep 14, 2010 4:10 pm

Hi,
I have read this thread & this is my first post in this forum. I read many threads here but you guys seem to me scary movie 3 characters. But as the same time i am open to it as there can always be things which i have not come across in my life so that doesnt mean that they dont exist. But i fail to understand Burning a candle or a piece of a paper or drawing of a symbol can make any difference at all.
I am very skeptic of the concept of god & evil as they cannot be proved or there can be a way which i dont know. Now one of you talked about kundlini & shushumna(not shushuma) I belong to the land where this concept originated. But still whoever i met was a phoney.
So if u can tell me a sureshot way to experience what you guys believe in i will be highly grateful.