Spell or Magic or how to go about this?

xman009 · Post by **xman009** » Mon Jan 18, 2010 9:15 am

This is my last option coming here but my question is:
1) Are these spell sites on the net legit where they chage like 30-40 for a spell?
2) I am not too familar with all the options here (spells, b/w magic, tantric spells?...) what is to be used and how do we go about finding professionals?
3) My situation is love related. I am not looking to make her love me but she liked me before, suddenly she found a more sucessful man and went off with him and I can't get back to my life for all these months. I am not looking to make her love me or break them up, but she doesn't talk with me anymore because she found a rich sucessful man. All I need to is to somehow make her want to meet me on her own and go out with me few times so I can atleast give it a fair shot on my own to get her back. If spells, magic, etc can help with this then great, but I am not sure how to go about this. My entire life has come to a stop for so many months because of losing her like this and I want a fair chance with her somehow which I can't get just leaving things on luck. Fact is I love her. She is superfictial and only like sucessful men the filthy rich ones, they don't care about her but they have enough money to throw around so they spend it on her and she thinks they love her.

ZombieLobster · Post by **ZombieLobster** » Mon Jan 18, 2010 10:59 pm

You probably won't like what i'm about to say but judging from what you've told i would seriously suggest you to pause for a moment.

1.)Probably not, most people that charge for spells will rip you off(with possible exceptions included).
2.)You don't need a professional, you'r capable of doing magic yourself if you want it bad enough.
3.)Pause. Reread your post and try to distance yourself for a moment. Read it as if you were reading the post of a stranger online. Do you think you'd seriously be happy with a person that cares more about the size of your wallet than the size of your heart? I know how it feels to be in love with someone that doesn't want you from first hand man, it makes torture look like a fun day in the park. Thing is even if you do get what you want right now, what makes you think you won't end up hating her down the line when your idealized view of her meets cold, dark reality?

Think about it.
Right now you might not have everything you want, but you have everything you need.

If that doesn't make you stop and reconsider, and you'r ready to give magic a shot check out the forum archive here. Do a quick search for sigils. It's one of the easiest methods to try and give a shot, but there's some tricks to it. The more you'll want it the less likely it is that it'll happen. The post of the people before me say much more and in a much more eloquent manner so give the search engine a shot. Who knows, maybe you get sucked down the proverbial rabbit hole and find what you'r looking for.

Good luck,
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Post by **Venefica** » Sun Jan 24, 2010 7:13 pm

1)Are these spell sites on the net legit where they chage like 30-40 for a spell?

Legit as in legal? There is nothing illegal in most nations about setting up sites like that, legit as in do the spells work? I am not going to say there are no serious pepole doing things like that, and the price is not horrible for a service such as this, remember a well performed spell might take hours to do, and might require expensive materials, as such it is cheaper than having a facial done or going to the hair dresser. However, you should always be wary of anyone demanding money to do services which you have no control over that is being done. I mean anyone can say sure hand me 30 bucks, and then say now I have done the spell and just pocket the money and wait for the next sucker. If I was to pay for spell work I would at least go to someone who accept clients into their homes, and preferably where I could observe the ritual itself, not just a web page where you have no control over the skill of the practitioner or even that anything is being done for your money.

2) I am not too familar with all the options here (spells, b/w magic, tantric spells?...) what is to be used and how do we go about finding professionals?

I strongly recommend that you familiarize yourself with magick if you plan on bringing it into your life, read a few books, learn to do the magick yourself, that is more cheap than having someone else do it, and usually more effective. If you are determined to find a professional I would find someone in your city which you can actually go see and talk to. Not a web page.

3) My situation is love related. I am not looking to make her love me but she liked me before, suddenly she found a more sucessful man and went off with him and I can't get back to my life for all these months. I am not looking to make her love me or break them up, but she doesn't talk with me anymore because she found a rich sucessful man. All I need to is to somehow make her want to meet me on her own and go out with me few times so I can atleast give it a fair shot on my own to get her back.

If the woman in your life left you because you are not rich enough, what on earth make you think that if you only talk with her you will win her back? Either A she have found someone else and love him and not you and do not want to talk with you because she have nothing to say. Or she is a materialistic gold digger and love money not a man, and then the only way she will be with you is if you are rich. Sound to me like the kind of magick you need is a spell to ease your own hearth ache and then letting this lady go and find someone who actually love you.

If spells, magic, etc can help with this then great, but I am not sure how to go about this. My entire life has come to a stop for so many months because of losing her like this and I want a fair chance with her somehow which I can't get just leaving things on luck. Fact is I love her. She is superfictial and only like sucessful men the filthy rich ones, they don't care about her but they have enough money to throw around so they spend it on her and she thinks they love her.

And again you need to think here. Let us say you magickally got the chance to go out with this woman, why on earth would she want to be with you if you do not have the quality she is looking for in a man, namely money, you can talk and tell her how much you love her and she will walk away. Some pepole care about money and things, and you have to accept that this woman DO NOT LOVE YOU! You need to work with yourself and get your life back on track and find a woman who will love you for yourself. Or if you want to win the heart of a gold digger you need to get rich.

Now I know you are probably thinking that you can convince the lady you are speaking of that the men she is with do not love her, but chances are she know that. She know they are using her and she is using them, she want nice things and bling and expensive parties, and they can give that to her, you can not. Accept it, cry, deal with the heart break and move on with your life. Good luck.

darkwolf · Post by **darkwolf** » Mon Jan 25, 2010 5:57 am

I'm 100% behind both posts here. Spell-selling sites are... well, every serious practicioner I've met looks on them with deep suspicion, at the very least. More than once an acquaintance has gone to one, and found something that not only doesn't do what it says on the tin, it's actually harmful. As far as the gal goes, you need to move on, friend. She may be a gold digger, she may not, but either way, life isn't like Mills & Boon, and she ain't comin' back, sad to say.

Learn a bit about magic though, by all means. Lots of teachers here, from many paths, just *begging* to be asked things. Everchain knows I am.

Post by **Venefica** » Mon Jan 25, 2010 12:59 pm

Hell one do not even need a teacher, there are plenty of good starting books, and most of them cost only a few dollars on Amazon. There are even places where one can dowload books or even find useful information on web pages. So all it really costs to learn magick for one self is time, dedication and a bit of patience.

Uriel666 · Post by **Uriel666** » Sun Apr 04, 2010 1:35 pm

ZombieLobster nailed it down,baby! If she is so superficial, then WTF do you want her for anyway? Trust me, there are plenty of women out there that are willing to love you for who you are instead of what you have! And what good would it do you to get her back and then see half of it go bye-bye when she meets Mr. wonderful a year or so down the road? (I HAVE BEEN THERE AND DONE THAT!!!) Look at this situation as this...She has given you the best gift that she could have ever given you, a clear insight into what she would have been like as a wife/partner/etc. Move forward and trust me, Life has many wonderful things in store for you!!!

Post by **Venefica** » Sun Apr 11, 2010 9:54 pm

The old Sumerian word for man means never ending source of abundance or in other word walking ATM machine. Now it is natural for a woman to seek out a pan who can pay to keep her, it have been done in all times, and being a gold digger is in fact quite natural. I know this might insult some feminists, but it is true. However many women have also moved beyond this. If the OP do not have allot of money it would be madness to try to keep a woman who is only about the cash, he should find a nice modern woman who is independent and leave the god digger with the rich men and they will both be more happy.

Gandridur · Post by **Gandridur** » Tue Apr 13, 2010 11:50 am

The only professional you should pay for is a theurapist if ever needed. I knew a magician that had a friend that asked the magician if he could help him to get back his ex-girlfriend. He was desperate. The magician told him, trust me, you dont want her back that way. You have to accept the fact that she left you. No matter how painful it feels. That's life. Ask yourself why the hell you dont think you deserve someone better than that? Why do you want back someone that treated you like that? Ever heard the old Groucho Marx joke? "I don't want to belong to any club that will accept me as a member." I dont know how many times I have met women, or heard of, had boyfriends that treated them like shit,assaulted, abused them etc. and asking why they still stay with those scums. Oh, I love him. Sigh! That's not love. Get over her and be glad she's gone. She was a misstake och learn your lesson. Oh and if magic is your thing, start practice it. But if you believe it is a thing that can be used to save you from pain or a lazy excuse to not do things and expect magic to solve it, forget it.

Post by **Venefica** » Tue Apr 13, 2010 4:22 pm

I do not necessary agree that the woman acted in any wrong way. Hell from what the OP says she never hid that she was high maintenance. She did a rather natural thing. Many women seek in a man a provider and little else, and the better provider the higher status she get, and what is wrong with that as long as she do not try to hide it? The problem here is not the woman, it is the man who read something else into the relationship than was there and now refuses to accept that he can not meet what this woman is looking for in a man.

Far to often I see women who want men for their money, or men who want women for their looks or generally pepole who want others for other reasons than the politically correct reasons get treated as the villeins. I do not agree with this. I see nothing wrong with wanting a relationship for superficial or materialistic reasons as long as one is upfront with it and do not try to deceive anyone.