Satan is within and without

[alex nero]

Satan exists inside all of us,as the incarnation of instincts which help us survive and reproduce.Satan also exists without,residing in the collective unconscious which binds us all.Knowing this,the Satanist can move forward with the confidence that Satan will be there,no matter what the circumstance.This is a great comfort,considering the chilling absence of other gods in other religions.The Satanist first and foremost is self-reliant,but it is nice to know that support is there if needed. Of course,one can only count on Satan if one is loyal to Him,always speaking highly of Him and never waivering in belief or support.Satanism is indeed a selfish,egotistical religion---but the Satanist is truly never alone.Praise Satan for that!!

[Stukov]

Ok, while I respect everyone's right to believe what they want...no...just no. To quote myself from another post about someone who "sold their soul to the devil"...

I'm personally apt to believe you didn't sell your soul to the "devil", because I would have no desire for it. Most people seem to think the "devil" is about servitude to the "dark/evil" rather than servitude to "light/good". Hate to break the news to you but it isn't. While there are tons of entities out there that like to claim to be the "devil" and would happily accept your enslavement, it isn't the rebel, the devil, or the one who was first ha-satan, the adversary. In fact he cares little about you or your soul and only offers the insight of freeing your own bondage so that you are a slave to no one, not even yourself, not even your own desires.

Everyone has power and that power can be shared by belief/faith/servitude/worship. Trying to find strength, wisdom, or power through others is nothing more than a folly and weakness. True strength, true power, and true wisdom comes from within and nowhere else. The only reason people benefit from believing for worshiping a deity (good or bad) is that firstly the being is already pretty strong, and is being made stronger by others giving or lending their own power to it. When connected to it, this power (your own power you didn't even know you had) drains from you to it, then is given back to you in lesser amounts. It feels good and is better because the being is able to draw all your power, including what you didn't realize you had. End result you get more power than you would have in your miserable weak state, but less than you ever will on your own.

You become reliant of this energy, it becomes a requirement that you constantly feed upon, and should you ever pull your mouth away from the nipple and stop sucking you become an empty void. It is with this that you are controlled and enslaved.

The reason why some people consider giving into ones desires, chaos, or otherwise destruction as being synonymous with the "devil" is because at times these things are necessary. Necessary to destroy our old views and box we are contained in, to explore the grand abyss, accept all possibilities - not for the sake of destruction, chaos, or desire fulfillment - but so that you break your chains of enslavement, learn how to truly be free, find your inner strength, and develop your core. Your previous life was most likely filled with order or structure. Without order nothing can exist; without chaos nothing can evolve. As you burn down the order and structure of your previous self, then swim in the abyss of self - free and without fear, it is there that you once again begin anew, like the mythical phoenix, burned to ashes and from those ashes reborn.

I have given you the best answer to your proclamation as to why you I'm pretty sure you are not correct, but what do I know. You do what you want, its your perception to whether or not you are a slave to your new found overlord (who I am 99% sure is not the "devil") and it is your free will to become a slave regardless.

YOU reside within yourself, not any other entity, unless you are allowing yourself to be a slave. And there is no "loyalty to him", you are free to follow whomever you desire, that is free will. The only thing you should be "loyal" to, is to your true self, and any values you believe are at the core of your self. You shouldn't be loyal to someone just, because they are someone (though there is caveat to giving benefit of the doubt to those you consider friends), you should always do what you want and what you feel is right.

You should always do what you think is right, the only problem people have with that is far too often do people stop looking for answers and just assume they are right. They don't ever consider another perspective nor do they consider any other possibility of truth than their own. And yes, I actually do consider the irony of that statement considering my first sentence and the tone of this response, but I have a rather unique perspective on this.

Could there being a being that houses some of the qualities you speak of? Sure, but I can tell you that it isn't the adversary, it isn't "satan", or the "devil"...at least any of these that are referenced in contemporary "mythology".

[Belial]

What Stukov said.Only with extreme emphasis.Also note some beings adopt that title and it is a title not a proper name.I also feel you're missing a few points.

[Stukov]

What Stukov said.Only with extreme emphasis.Also note some beings adopt that title and it is a title not a proper name.I also feel you're missing a few points.

Which points you think I'm missing? I usually try to stray from saying everything, otherwise its like reading a book.

[Belial]

My post was directed at Nero.

[alex nero]

To anyone who disagrees:that is your opinion,and I have mine.I believe in an actual being I call Satan.I feel this being,under the guise of another name,Lucifer,has enlightened me about certain truths.I cannot prove or disprove anything---but that is just the point---even in Satanism,a certain amount of faith is required.I know Satan guides me,and I do have faith in myself,but there is more going on in life than we see.I am glad to have an unseen ally,Satan,considering all the unseen forces out to do one harm.I serve a king,and any so-called Satanist who claims to be a god is neither a god nor a Satanist.

[Belial]

Now that I am more inclined to accept.Your more recent post is more appropriate in my eyes.I'm not exactly trying to speak against your beliefs.There are more than one entity that lay claim to the title of Satan.Satan is just that , a title and the one you mentioned does indeed hold such title.You do not serve a king , you serve an emperor and a conqueror.He is not the god of darkness and he in fact shines his righteous light of truth to bring the ancient lies to light.Personally I liked the olde king better.I am not exactly theistic or atheistic if that makes any sense to you.I dislike the modern adaptation of Satanism , the ways of old were better.Personally I'm not a Satanist , I just have closer ties in this field.At least the old version.

[Stukov]

Oh, I see...and without trying to sound like an asshole...yes "Lucifer" is not the same as "Satan", as Belial has pointed out, other beings have "adopted the title of satan"...

No again, without sounding like a complete asshole, while driving home a point, yes, I am aware of "Lucifer" who is entirely not the "devil/satan" under the Abrahamic religions, as you seem to concur, however calling them "satan" is rather silly, you would be hitting closer to home by calling them Allah. As you have asked in another thread "am I evil", the answer is no, as Belial has mentioned the light bringer is far from that side of the coin. Hell, I'm more evil than your "deity" is, and Belial even more so. No offense, if you only knew how much you was being led around.

Sometimes some only use the light to create shadows for lies to hide. Mr. Lightbringer is one of them.