Evocation from Lesser Keys of Solomon- advice/help

[seandra]

Hello. I am new to the forum, not new to practicing and if this is in the wrong area I ask that you kindly let me know where to post something of this nature for future knowledge. Never have I used a ritual to evoke and I am in need of doing so, yet want to be sure that in so doing no disrespect is given to the spirit that I am calling upon and that all goes as it should. It is worth noting that with the sigil of this spirit being something that I have focused on, it is with me that last night my recollection of things while sleeping is a bit off; there is a sense and vague memory that he spoke to me though I can't recall the conversation it was peaceful and calming to me. The spirit is one that is kind and in the Lesser Keys of Solomon. Any advice is greatly appreciated, thank you.

[seandra]

** I have the sigil and to clarify I was asleep with it under my pillow and while sleeping had the peaceful experience which may have been astral. I don't claim to have done anything while sleeping or on an astral plane, just stating the feeling which I was left with. [geek]

[Iesus]

Look if you don't know how to use the lesser or greater keys of solomon then there is a reason for that. Do you think you just instantly become Solomon?? Demons don't exist but energy does good luck!

[Stukov]

It's rather hard to say demons don't exist when it is such a broad term, you might have well as said spirits don't exist, as most spirits that exist were called demons at some point in time. Saying that either don't exist at all is a rather broad statement that I cannot quite agree with.

[Iesus]

Ok I will explain a little more Demons don't exist, Angels don't exist, LIGHT BEINGS which are pure energy do exist a light being is a spirit entity that has no physical body. a spirit to help you understand is charged energy that simple. I can assure any and everyone of you that you will have no luck with Solomon inspired wisdom if you don't even understand simple basic facts.

[Etar]

Ok I will explain a little more Demons don't exist, Angels don't exist, LIGHT BEINGS which are pure energy do exist a light being is a spirit entity that has no physical body. a spirit to help you understand is charged energy that simple. I can assure any and everyone of you that you will have no luck with Solomon inspired wisdom if you don't even understand simple basic facts.

Your view (that demons and angels don't exist) is just one among many others, and in most of them, yes, they do exist. I don't think you should impose your views like that to a lightseeker.

Hello. I am new to the forum, not new to practicing and if this is in the wrong area I ask that you kindly let me know where to post something of this nature for future knowledge. Never have I used a ritual to evoke and I am in need of doing so, yet want to be sure that in so doing no disrespect is given to the spirit that I am calling upon and that all goes as it should. It is worth noting that with the sigil of this spirit being something that I have focused on, it is with me that last night my recollection of things while sleeping is a bit off; there is a sense and vague memory that he spoke to me though I can't recall the conversation it was peaceful and calming to me. The spirit is one that is kind and in the Lesser Keys of Solomon. Any advice is greatly appreciated, thank you.

Hello, how are you? I will be quite honest with you, just like more experienced practitioners were with me in the past. You said you have never evoked before. I don't know you, of course, so I have to ask. Do you have any serious magical skill, like clairvoyance? If you do, then I'm sorry, and I'm sure you know these things. If you don't, then you should know that it's useless and even dangerous to attempt to evoke without prior skill. You might not get any results at all, or worse, you might get results, and since you won't be able to see what you "evoked", you might be in trouble.

[Iesus]

You can't seek light if you don't even understand what it is. There are gods that give knowledge none of you seem to know who that god is and spirits get more entertainment out of helping you to suffer than they do helping you to succeed the reason being is because to live is a blessing in which they can't do and never will.

[Stukov]

Ok I will explain a little more Demons don't exist, Angels don't exist, LIGHT BEINGS which are pure energy do exist a light being is a spirit entity that has no physical body. a spirit to help you understand is charged energy that simple. I can assure any and everyone of you that you will have no luck with Solomon inspired wisdom if you don't even understand simple basic facts.

First, everything that exists in the universe is made of energy. My physical body that im sitting in right now is just energy. Saying they are made of energy is like saying th ocean is made of water.

Light is a photon, a massless particle that can act like a wave or a particle. Nothing can exactly be made of light, the same as nothing can just be x-rays. Things can give off light, but not be made simply of light.

Things can exist that we perceive as light, but that doesn't mean they are light. A car coming at you at night with its bright lights on sure makes it look like its nothing but light, but inreality its just headlights on a vehicle.

[Iesus]

Pure light was here at 1st in this "WORLD" it engulfed itself basically swallowed itself and became darkness hence "SPACE" that is why all religions all spiritual seeking groups say seek LIGHT.


yes you can have pure light it is energy in itself and you are not pure energy none of us humans are we can't get past our own blindness to become LIGHT

[Etar]

Pure light was here at 1st in this "WORLD" it engulfed itself basically swallowed itself and became darkness hence "SPACE" that is why all religions all spiritual seeking groups say seek LIGHT.


yes you can have pure light it is energy in itself and you are not pure energy none of us humans are we can't get past our own blindness to become LIGHT

I hope you understand that if the topic opener ever comes back, all you said will just confuse them more. My point, that you shouldn't impose anything, stands.

[Iesus]

I do understand that has nothing to do with the topic i was answering the guy before me who was trying to explain that everything is pure energy it is most certainly not i see no point to even talk on this topic anymore because first off Solomon was not even Jewish he was Egyptian you will only find him in history as that as well.. So most of this is pointless on him he did however have connections to gods because Egyptians did hence Pyramids.

[Stukov]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conservation_of_energy

I don't know if you are just being silly, but everything in the universe is made of energy or simply is energy. How or in what way that energy takes form whether a turtle on the sore or ray of light from the sun it doesn't change that it is energy.

There is no difference between light and pure light, its just light.

You seem to be confusing the use of word "light" in actuality terms with that in symbolical terms. As I mentioned with the car and the lights shining at you, what you are seeing is a matter of perception, it might look like the car its just a couple balls of light coming at you in the dark, but its just something else emitting light (as I mentioned light photons are particles that can act as a particle or wave and seen because they are always in motion traveling somewhere until they hit an object and are absorbed by that object (or reflected which gives color).

[Enochael]

Iesus has derailed this thread because of his/her christian like arrogance. He/she believes that any other view point is utter nonsense and unworthy of consideration. Regardless of weather Iesus is right, or not, the discussion he/she has brought up belongs elsewhere.

[Stukov]

Iesus has derailed this thread because of his/her christian like arrogance. He/she believes that any other view point is utter nonsense and unworthy of consideration. Regardless of weather Iesus is right, or not, the discussion he/she has brought up belongs elsewhere.

He was spoken with in another thread. So we can go back on topic without (hopefully) his ranting.