sold my soul to the devil

[deazy11]

a year ago for a hit of meth i said i sell my soul to the devil 3x bowed drank a glass of water and signed my name in blood (worst deal ever) anyway i jumped on a ouija board the other day and a demon by the name of yazah told me he had my soul and that if i sold 50 more to him hed give me a life extension when i die so i dont have to burn in hell... anyway what id really like to know is how to sell a soul properly for money, power, charm etc any help wohuld be great

[Asurendra]

Hello Deazy11,

The first thing I want to say is the most important: I hope that you are off drugs and that you have gotten your life together as best as you can. If your hope is that this entity from the Ouija board will do this heavy lifting for you then I am afraid you will be sadly disappointed.

It can happen that individuals who frequent bars and places where there are groups of people engaged in heavy drug use can acquire attachments. If the energetic field, the aura, is weakened enough then a deceased alcoholic or drug addict who is trapped on the lower astral or etheric plane because of their addiction (these places are chocked full of such ghostly people) will form a cord into the aura (others teach them to do this, by the way) and when the host is drunk or high then they can feed off that and put some drops of water on their burning addiction. So, as you can imagine, they will act in ways to influence the host to continue deeper into the behavior as it requires much more to satisfy them.

This can get even worse. If the host dies in this state and the controlling parasite is strong enough with enough of a hold, he can keep them trapped as well and use them like a tool to feed on others while the 'tool' has little benefit. You should probably want to avoid such scenarios.

I do not know for sure if this self-proclaimed 'demon' that communicated with you is exactly this type of entity (some on the Forum like Rose Red can tell you with more certainty than I) but I do know it is a crackpot.

As to your soul, I know we were all taught as children in CCD classes from outfits like the Catholic Church that a soul is something your have and if it gets dirty you have to take it to a priest to get dry-cleaned or Jesus will throw it in on in the burning trash pit. This is wrong. Your soul is your awareness. You can end up in bad situations and entrapped by illusions but you always have the freedom to get out because that is an innate aspect of your awareness.

Use your freedom to manifest all the potential that you have within yourself and not to move away from this. If you want spiritual help that can certainly be available.

One last point, that is about deals with the Devil. This is Christian myth. In fact, in the Middle Ages and the Renaissance all the magicians who worked with the Key of Solomon and the Goetia to evoke demons did so by the power of the Name of God and they made these beings work for them. In real ancient grimoirs or books of magic this is what you find: no deal making.

They did not make deals with them, they told them what to do. This notion of reversing this relationship comes from after the 30 Years' War in Europe and the legend of Dr. Faust. The reason is that this war shook the faith of Europe to the core so people thought that if God was out of business maybe the Devil was still around peddling wares.

I wish you luck

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[manofsands]

Ya,.. you can't sell your soul. You may make some kind of agreement, you may end up in servitude, whatever, but you'll always have your soul until you merge with the One.

The true holy grail... the cup that holds spirit.

[Sypheara]

Two good posts, but I will say that if you promise something, and then dont honour it or disrespect them for cheap parlor tricks / games like that, spirits and gods will certainly punish you for it.

Unfortunately, the entity you disrespected does in fact exist. I wouldn't be surprised he hasn't pushed you down that path to challenge you and teach you a harsh lesson.

As Asurendra has said however, it is within your power to change it, starting with your own individual choices and actions.

[RoseRed]

As to your soul, I know we were all taught as children in CCD classes from outfits like the Catholic Church that a soul is something your have and if it gets dirty you have to take it to a priest to get dry-cleaned or Jesus will throw it in on in the burning trash pit.

Dude!!!!! This is great! I love the phrasing.

I personally believe that you can sell your soul if it's yours to sell. Some souls are claimed by various deities.

You can't sell someone else's soul. Your little Ouija board demon wants you to sell souls for it? I'm sorry, but... LMFAO. It doesn't work that way.

Just so you know - entities lie. There is no demon that will save you from burning in hell regardless of how much you'd like to believe it. Most of what comes through a Ouija board are manipulative liars. They play games. It amuses them. Try not to fall for it.

[Sypheara]

Was it you Rose that used to have a ouija board that you couldnt get rid of? I rememeber someone posting about it or something similar. That they burned it then it reappeared.

[RoseRed]

Me and my oldest cousin. My Grandmother had to get rid of both of them - years apart from each other.

[Sypheara]

Yeah, they are pretty 'interesting' for 'toys'. I am interested to hear your opinion on using a board for actually communicating with a particular given spirit, if safeguards were in place. (ie, not plop and go, like often is the case).

[Asurendra]

Rose Red,

Do you think a Ouija Board would be a useful tool if it were:
a) used in a generally cleared space
b) used within a magic circle of some form

I have never used one but I remember hearing an interview on Coast to Coast AM years ago of two sisters who used it with positive results.

BTW, regarding Deazy11, if he does not listen (which he won't) the probability is he will either OD or end up as a born again Christian.

[RoseRed]

I avoid Ouija Boards like the plague. When I was young and dumb and filled with more piss and vinegar than brains I got into trouble with my Mother's very old board. That would be the one that I couldn't get rid of. It is a portal. Things can come through if you're not careful or taught how to use one properly. I have friends that LOVE their boards. I don't even own one.

Do I think it could be a useful tool?

Yes, to some people I think it can be. I think that if the board is cleared and used properly that it can help with spirit communication. The problem is - you usually end up with either the spirit of a local haunting or one that's passing through. I've found (through my own experience and by speaking with others) that the spirits that seem to hang around the boards are generally a lower level spirit, liars, manipulators or just plain mean. On the rare occasion you may get a family member or actually reach a specific spirit but that's not the norm.

Using it within a circle would depend upon the purpose of the circle. If you're creating it for protection to keep things out then no, it would not be helpful. If you're using it to keep a spirit trapped - you're gonna have one pissed off spirit.

If you're creating a symbolic circle with a ring of Gifted and/or Talented people to lend power - you'd be amazed at what you can reach with a board.

[kingofkenyi13]

sorry, alcoholic here and very regular sinner. I dedicated my life to Lucifer for assistance in my life and saw no proof of any spirit world. I cast many spells and saw no proof. I paid others to cast spells and saw no proof. I did oujia boards with former mediums and my wife(she sees dead people...seriously) and saw no proof. I, although, have known minor events before they've occurred, moved things with my mind and all this by accident whilst daydreaming. I have astrally projected and had a repeat dream my whole life that teaches how to use all my mental gifts. all the curiosities ive done, as I said has been unintentional and I wanted to know is any of this real? is anyone capable of showing me undeniable proof of demons, spirits, mental gifts, anything? im not making fun; im serious.

[RoseRed]

Yup, it's real.

Undeniable proof? Probably not.

[Procel]

IMHO, the entity is trying to play you. I don't know how you resolve your deal, but I'd advise against doing this one's bidding.

[deazy11]

Cheers for the advices. Does anyone have a ritual to sell a soul my gf would like to sell hers cheers

[manofsands]

What is she hopeing to get in exchange... or is she just doing some spring cleaning and looking to get rid of things she doesn't use much?

(there should be a sticky response for this one too)

[Sypheara]

What is she hopeing to get in exchange... or is she just doing some spring cleaning and looking to get rid of things she doesn't use much?

(there should be a sticky response for this one too)

Lol.

[Nahemah]

(there should be a sticky response for this one too)

We can do that. [thumbup]

Agreed.

While it's fine to ask as a beginner if you want hints and tips on learning Evocation magicks,asking for the 'big stuff' in this section when you've never evoked before or have any kind of relevant prior experience in this area,is to say the least,a bit naive. [crazy]

Ideas for what to put in such a response,would be welcome. [thumbup]

Links to learning resources would also be handy. [grin]

...From the summoning Lucifer thread.

The same applies here too.

[deazy11]

Serious answers please no trolls

[Sypheara]

Serious answers please no trolls

You just asked if we could tell you how you could instruct someone to sell their soul.

This is like asking for advice on how to commit suicide.

Most people arn't going to volunteer that information if they know for moral reasons.

If you cared about your gf, you wouldn't be quick to encourage her to sell her soul.

Especially in a thread where you are asking how to get out of selling your own previously.

Both of you need to grow up.

[RoseRed]

You said everything I was thinking in such a polite and direct manner. [pray]