Ancient Astronaut Theory

[Tyho]

Hi,

What do you think of this theory? Do you believe that ancient aliens visited the Earth in the remote past? Do you think they helped us shaped our civilizations and acquire invaluable knowledge for the advancement of our specy?

I am curious to your views on this.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ancient_a ... hypothesis

[Prometheus69]

I believe our ancestors were a lot more intelligent than we give them credit for, technology wise we have become superior but as far as understanding the land, spirits and principles that encorporates nature I feel we have gotten far away from, the "Aliens" in our past that our ancestors saw could have been spirits, or could have indeed been aliens.. I personally feel it is more so neither of those and just like many things just happened to be a snowball effect of seeing meteors, meteorites, the Stars ect..
I believe that anything is possible so I don't discount the theory, but many things they say on the show for the discovery channel are half truths and bold faced lies hidden around historical accuracy.
I like to think the theory is true, but my beliefs (at this moment) lay elsewhere. [thumbup]
I do believe there are advanced life forms out there, but wether they visited earth in the past I would say is overall unlikely ... the child in me wants to believe it to be true. But that doesn't make it true [cry]

[Ramscha]

I do believe there are advanced life forms out there, but wether they visited earth in the past I would say is overall unlikely ... the child in me wants to believe it to be true. But that doesn't make it true

It would probably make things a hell lot more interesting to say the least. [crazy]

The likelyhood of life out there isn't that small taking the drake-equation into account (though it is a bit controversal). However, the likelyhood of intelligent life out there might be on a complete different level. It takes time for civilisations to arise and as our history shows they can be wiped out with very little traces left by catastrophies etc. Time plays also a role in another important matter: The time of appearance. The length of our existence is a mere blink of an eye on astronomical time scale I am sure you heard of that. That might probably be the same for hypothetical civilizations. Even if they existed/will exist we might as well be thousands or even millions of years apart and therefore probably would never really notice each other.

Technology itself also posses a problem projected from our current level of knowledge. Even if it was possible to have an alien civilization in the vicinity of a few hundred thousand light years there is still the distance. If we would even notice something from another star like signals it takes an aweful amount of time (in our perspective...), we basically look into the past when we look at the stars. Meaning when we recieve a signal from a potential neighbor from a few thousand light years away they might as well have already disappeared or changed at least a lot. The same goes for a travel back and forth, even if we would be able to travel at the speed of light a few thousand years are still a lot of time.

Of course this is just a very basic projection from human perspective and I didn't take into account the newest theories on the travel of information, potential mental traveling (hypothetical) and there like. Who knows what we will know and discover in the next 50-100 years?

Regarding the hypothesis I would say that its foundation is very shaky to say the least. An aweful lot based on (often) fragmentive mythology. Mythology isn't really known for its literal or historical authenticy to say the least [happy] Then there comes a bit of interpretation of old pictures and artefacts and some strange unsharp fotos from mars, moon or the woods, planes in the night sky. Still a bit shaky and though there are some strange things like the existence of the GEIPAN I think it might go too far to jump to defined final conclusion.

For my own sake I will stay curious and look forward to whatever Nasa, Esa and all the other buggers will find or are at least allowed to share.

Ramscha

[420]

I've come to believe we've been interacting with the others for a very long time. It's a very complex interaction. "Aliens" doesn't cover all that's been going on. Neither does "spirits", "multi-dimensionals", or even a combination of all three. There's a level of strangeness that is beyond our current concepts in some of the interactions. It is not ours to understand completely at the moment.

[Ramscha]

Something interesting as additional information:
http://www.iflscience.com/space/astrono ... tem-galaxy

As I said the existence of humans as a "intelligent species" possessing a civilization is in the history of the universe as long as a mere blink of an eye, a very short one to be precise. Seeing that time scale of planets the size and type of earth forming since the earliest generation of stars could one bring to speculate if there could have been myriads of places with life forms coming and going before earth even had the size of a dust particle.

Ramscha

[Tyho]

As I said the existence of humans as a "intelligent species" possessing a civilization is in the history of the universe as long as a mere blink of an eye, a very short one to be precise. Seeing that time scale of planets the size and type of earth forming since the earliest generation of stars could one bring to speculate if there could have been myriads of places with life forms coming and going before earth even had the size of a dust particle.

For all we know, Aliens need not originate from a remote planet in a particular galaxy but from extra-dimensions or could even be time-travellers from the future. Astronomy and exobiology is great and we may find intelligent lifeforms in some other Earth-like planet in the forseeable future but perhaps these Ancient Aliens don't even come from our 3 dimensional world!

[Procel]

Much like Promethius66 and Fox Mulder, I want to believe. I have serious problems with a lot of the yarn that is spun on the "Ancient Aliens" TV show but it is after all, a TV show. Wild conjecture and lame deduction (if___, then.....ancient aliens!) are acceptable when they come out of the boob tube. I find the show to be more worth while than, say, the State of the Union address, but only a little more credible.

One point that I think they are right on is that a great deal of accepted history is probably dead wrong. I don't think they have the tme line as well understood as they think they do. ("they" in the previous sentence being established science) I think that there have been people traveling greater distances for a longer time than current text book history accepts. The possibility of connection between ancient South America and Asian and African sea farers seems more likely than the one direction theory of human expansion embraced for decades.

As for ancient visitation from other planets, it's possible but as Dr. Sagan put it "extraordinary claims require extraordinary proof." I have yet to see such proof. I reject the notion that because we couldn't build the pyramids today with our current technology, then the pyramid's builders had help from ET. That line of thinking is pure hubris. People are clever and they can surprise you. It's not at all impossible that we have had contact with aliens, but the existence of ancient structures that we don't understand is not proof of anything except that we don't understand what we are looking at.

There is a lot to be said for the distance and time arguments against interplanetary contact. The universe is certainly big enough for lots of life, but given the unfathomable size and age of it all, the likelihood of two species on two planets existing within a close enough expanse of space and time to actually encounter each other does start to get unlikely. Then again, unlikely things do happen. It's possible that two or more interplanetary species could find each other, but it is more likely that multiple civilizations will rise and fall without ever encountering each other.

[cyberdemon]

I don't believe in aliens. It's one of those if-I-can't-see-it kind of things, except I'm being a hypocrite by putting so much faith into spirituality on the other hand.
Anyway, we should've at least seen a real show by now. Think the Black Knight Satellite, but far less obscure. Until they show up, "aliens" will, for me, be whoever it is outside the universe.