Theories on uneasy feelings and their relations to danger?

[Liberator]

Howcome sometimes when a certain person can't even see or are aware of a danger nearby in some cases they just get this spontaneous really uneasy feeling which they don't know where it comes from. Its like it comes from out of nowhere and as the danger grows it grows worse. In one case I read about it happened with someone staying in a car at a rest stop to sleep. Who then woke up in the middle of the night with an unexplainable spontaneous feeling of extremely uneasiness, that feeling causing her to want to leave for elsewhere to stay at a hotel. Later on she learnt that a murder occurred there and the elderly couple she met had been killed by someone.

Any thoughts/theories? In most cases people who have had this feeling get it when there is great danger near and it tells them to basically get out of there immediately and relocate elsewhere or before they make a horrible discovery.

[Desecrated]

Nine times out of ten your subconscious are paying more attention then you are and it needs to communicate it to the conscious somehow. Hence the 'butterfly in the stomach' and other psychosomatic phenomena.

[Liberator]

Nine times out of ten your subconscious are paying more attention then you are and it needs to communicate it to the conscious somehow. Hence the 'butterfly in the stomach' and other psychosomatic phenomena.

Whats with the subconscious often being much more intelligent or different than the average person? Like it has a will of its own and is a separate being living in the same body as you? Being able to know things you don't or you wouldn't even think of?

[the_spiral]

Nine times out of ten your subconscious are paying more attention then you are and it needs to communicate it to the conscious somehow. Hence the 'butterfly in the stomach' and other psychosomatic phenomena.

Agreed. What makes it into your conscious thought is only a tiny fraction of what you're actually perceiving at any given moment. So your senses are clocking a thousand tiny "out of place" details about a person/place/situation while your conscious mind is preoccupied with mundane stuff like your shopping list. Eventually all those subtle perceptions reach a tipping point where you finally register them consciously as "something is wrong here." The difference between people who survive such encounters and people who don't often comes down to a split-second decision to either heed that warning or ignore it. Gavin deBecker's book "The Gift of Fear" does a great job explaining the whole process.

So it's not that your subconscious is more "intelligent" than your conscious mind...it's just able to process a lot more information because it's not limited by the temporally linear chatter known as "thought."

[magari]

Your brain is receiving 100x more input than you are consciously aware of, but it's still processed.

I wouldnt say your subconscious is smarter, just receives more input.

In the infantry we called this the pucker factor.

Adrenaline begins to kick in before the firefight actually starts.

[Rin]

Rupert Sheldrake has written a book on the subject: http://www.amazon.com/The-Sense-Being-S ... 1620550970

I haven't read it, but I've listened to some of his presentations and he offers some fascinating theories that line up interestingly with esoteric philosophy. He's not just some random dude either:

Rupert Sheldrake is a biologist and author of more than 80 scientific papers and ten books. He was among the top 100 Global Thought Leaders for 2013, as ranked by the Duttweiler Institute, Zurich, Switzerland's leading think tank. He studied natural sciences at Cambridge University, where he was a Scholar of Clare College, took a double first class honours degree and was awarded the University Botany Prize (1963). He then studied philosophy and history of science at Harvard University, where he was a Frank Knox Fellow (1963-64), before returning to Cambridge, where he took a Ph.D. in biochemistry (1967). He was a Fellow of Clare College, Cambridge (1967-73), where he was Director of Studies in biochemistry and cell biology. As the Rosenheim Research Fellow of the Royal Society (1970-73), he carried out research on the development of plants and the ageing of cells in the Department of Biochemistry at Cambridge University. While at Cambridge, together with Philip Rubery, he discovered the mechanism of polar auxin transport, the process by which the plant hormone auxin is carried from the shoots towards the roots.

[Stukov]

Nine times out of ten your subconscious are paying more attention then you are and it needs to communicate it to the conscious somehow. Hence the 'butterfly in the stomach' and other psychosomatic phenomena.

Whats with the subconscious often being much more intelligent or different than the average person? Like it has a will of its own and is a separate being living in the same body as you? Being able to know things you don't or you wouldn't even think of?

Desecrated is correct here, it is a studied subject of psychology, though general "subconscious" talk fell out of favor because initially Freud linked everything to sex. Generally there is little validity in what Freud though, as we have found out through rigorous studies, testing, and experimentation. However, the subconscious still has an effect, though most psych literature I recall usually switched to "non-conscious". The basic explanation is two things, you have a nervous system that is designed to function and react without input from your conscious mind. A simple example is when something flies at your eyes. Your eyes will often blink and catch it in your eye lashes without you ever really realizing there was anything coming at you.

Additionally, everyone programs their brain every day through repetitive tasks. As neurons fire in a specific pattern it slowly creates a pathway and remembers it. When you are taught to throw a ball, you practice it over and over again. Your "learning" to throw a ball is your brain mapping out these pathways of neurons firing in a certain pattern and order. Eventually it becomes second nature to you, train enough and you can do it on instinct.

Instinct is a learned and innate ability to accomplish a task with little to no conscious thought. You can create instinct through rigorous training, but all of us have survival instincts we inherent from our ancestors. What Desecrated was saying is that when something bad is going on, your conscious mind may not put the pieces together, but your non-conscious mind has, and communicates to you through a feeling (often called gut instinct), listening to this instinct can be a good thing, such as the case presented or a bad thing. Those who suffer from PTSD can have a similar response, such as a war veteran getting an adrenaline rush combined with fear, paranoia, and anxiety when fireworks go off, because these are the instincts they used during a battle and their mind/body has been conditioned to respond with these when it thinks they are in battle. Not all triggers are so simple, though.

As he said, 9 times out of 10, this is likely the case because its something we are all capable of (those who aren't capable of it are less likely to survive and pass on their genetic material). Since we are on occult forums, I think you can surmise there are ways to two things, one increase your sensory perception (ie through various means become more aware of people and your surroundings), or two interface an increased sensory perception, someone, or something else who has a greater perception than you - to your subconscious. Some create servitors to alarm them if something happens, some use their higher self to see events before they happen, some get information from entities that can see more than we can. It doesn't matter if you are your own guardian angel or if its another entity, if you use it to survive a situation you might not otherwise - it was certainly beneficial.