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Original post: eradark

[QUOTE=Satanic One;257477]Ah the bullshitty joser, always amusing.
Jos is a system based on NEW AGE information (corrupt hindu , tantric, and buddhist teachings), fictional works of Zechiaria Stitchin, neo-nazi ideology, and the mad ramblings of the wife of the ex-president of the national socialist movement Andrea Herrington who uses the name Maxine Dietrich.

True satanism is about free thought but this isn't. It's a cult where if you don't listen to Andrea who can "talk directly to satan" your kicked out or labeled a jew. If you actually buy into this then you really should be in a christian church.

If you don't like someone you better have a good reason other than believing in that new world order bullshit.

Oh and eradark if that site really is bullshit PROVE IT!!! Oh and here's another link from another ex jos clergy member Diana Vera
http://www.theisticsatanism.com/politic ... index.html

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Do you speak from your personal experience with JOS, obviously not. You just repeat the hypocrisy you heard/read somewhere else. Yes, satanism is based on free thought as far as spirituality goes and they practice just that. Since you're the one with all the accusations of Jos being New Age and corrupt, why don't you put your money where your mouth is and prove it. Otherwise, it's a bunch of hot air coming from just another faceless hypocrite.

JOS don't push their political beliefs on anyone. Who cares what their policical agenda is, I don't.
Anyone that doesn't like JOS satanism are free to leave and lose nothing. But you don't even pay $100 to join unlike other greedy cults you probably belong to. Your problem is that others have to fit your description of what satainsm is. And if they don't, you go online and bullshit about them on the forums like these. You fit the description of a christian hypocrite, nothing more, nothing less.

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Original post: eradark

[QUOTE=hendo555666;257482]And thats bull, no one wants a racist skinhead on here!!Its guys like that who give Satanism a bad name!!!

Take your copy of Mein Kampf and shove it up your arse, my country didnt fight in ww2 to let Nazi twats like you roam around upsetting everyone!!

YES!!SATANISM IS ABOUT FREEDOM OF THOUGHT!!BUT THERES A LINE!!A LINE YOU WOULD LET A PEDOPHILE CROSS!!!SO WHY LET A NAZI!![/QUOTE]

Your ignorace and stupidity is amazing. Amusing even more so.

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Original post: hendo555666

Why you still posting???havent you got an SS rally to run off to!!!

And thats the funniest thing ive ever heard, calling a CoS member(SatanicOne im assuming your a CoS'r) a, what was it, a christian hypocrite!!!hahahahaha!!!!looser!!

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Original post: eradark

[QUOTE=hendo555666;257481]Six Million Jews Slaughterd, Thats Why You Fucking Prick!![/QUOTE]

Do you believe in Easter Bunny too ??

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Original post: hendo555666

Oh realy,well,ok,enlighten my simple mind!!Show me the errors of my ways, tell me your arguement in defence of Nazism!!

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Original post: hendo555666

[QUOTE=eradark;257487]Do you believe in Easter Bunny too ?? [/QUOTE]

Your not right in the head mate, seriously not right in the head!!

Look at these photos and see what sort of thing this Eradark and the JoS stand for!!

http://www.remember.org/image/images.html

Your scum mate!!!

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Original post: Naomi Chan

[QUOTE=hendo555666;257482]And thats bull, no one wants a racist skinhead on here!!Its guys like that who give Satanism a bad name!!!

Take your copy of Mein Kampf and shove it up your arse, my country didnt fight in ww2 to let Nazi twats like you roam around upsetting everyone!!

YES!!SATANISM IS ABOUT FREEDOM OF THOUGHT!!BUT THERES A LINE!!A LINE YOU WOULD LET A PEDOPHILE CROSS!!!SO WHY LET A NAZI!![/QUOTE]

No one said anything like that, stop trying to cause trouble with fnord buzzwords - they won't work amongst occultists.

Just because you disagree with someone's viewpoint doesn't give you the right to yell and carry on without formulating a sensible argument.

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Original post: natas666

[QUOTE=hendo555666;257482]And thats bull, no one wants a racist skinhead on here!!Its guys like that who give Satanism a bad name!!!

Take your copy of Mein Kampf and shove it up your arse, my country didnt fight in ww2 to let Nazi twats like you roam around upsetting everyone!!

YES!!SATANISM IS ABOUT FREEDOM OF THOUGHT!!BUT THERES A LINE!!A LINE YOU WOULD LET A PEDOPHILE CROSS!!!SO WHY LET A NAZI!![/QUOTE]

you need to calm down, im black and the racism part doesnt bother me, i ignore them.try it

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Original post: Satanic One

Do you speak from your personal experience with JOS, obviously not. You just repeat the hypocrisy you heard/read somewhere else. Yes, satanism is based on free thought as far as spirituality goes and they practice just that.

No they are a cult which is why if you say anything against the big bad maxine you get labeled a jew.

Since you're the one with all the accusations of Jos being New Age and corrupt, why don't you put your money where your mouth is and prove it. Otherwise, it's a bunch of hot air coming from just another faceless hypocrite.

O.k. the chakra system is based originally on tantra as a way to gain union with a the universe(or if you're hindu union with shiva and sakti) as the kundulini serpent rises up the spine. When it reaches the thousand petal lotus(that's crown in new age thought) enlightenment is acheived.

All of that garbage about superpowers is purely new age and so is the rainbow chakras and those retarted meditations which have terrible side effects such as oversleeping, paranoia, and general brainwashing altogether.
Source: The serpent power: Secrets of the Tantric and Shaktic yoga by Arthur Avalon.

As well all of the "magic" is purely garbage and doesn't work as it lacks the very basic knowledge of how magic works in the first place. I mean com'on her banishing ritual is merely putting two sigils on the side of the altar and for some retarted reason she thinks enochian is the language of demons. Neither of those statements are correct by any stretch of the imagination.
Source: Book 4 Liber ABA

JOS don't push their political beliefs on anyone. Who cares what their policical agenda is, I don't.

I do as I'm not a nazi and the last thing I want to hear is someone associating the two. As well national socialism and satanism don't fit together in any sense of the imagination. If so prove it.

Anyone that doesn't like JOS satanism are free to leave and lose nothing. But you don't even pay $100 to join unlike other greedy cults you probably belong to. Your problem is that others have to fit your description of what satainsm is. And if they don't, you go online and bullshit about them on the forums like these. You fit the description of a christian hypocrite, nothing more, nothing less.

Instead the JOS manipulates it's members who are very stupid mind you into giving donations as it is the only way your high priest can survive. Morons send plenty of cash to her everyday as she slowly brainwashes them while saying,"You donations are really helping"

It's brainwashing caused by repeated ramblings of the same things which are as follows
1. Chakras and Kundilindi will get you superpowers
2. Meditation is needed to get chakra and kundilini superpowers
3. Jews stole everything, jews have all the power, jews have all the money, and anything that can be said negatively about the jews.
4. Satan wants you to have power

This is all she ever says as everything she states is merely scewed crap with these tossed in.

At the end YOU are the hypocrite who knows nothing about what he's saying. Seeing as how you're just signed up to this forum to defend them I assume you know nothing outside that little cult of yours which is why you will fail everytime. Just try replying I'll adress your crappy "satan created earth theory" and how you seem to think all demons were pagan gods.

Oh and for the record I'm not a member of the CoS but I am thinking about it.

http://occultlibrary.150m.com/Satanism/Anti-Jos.htm

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Original post: Blackbird

[QUOTE=eradark;257464]That anti-JOS website is a lot of made-up bs. You people actually believe some nobody who takes all this effort to create a website and write tons of crap. I have to ask myself, what's in it for them? Apparently there must be. I read JOS' writings, they're OK, I didn't notice any fiction there. JOS are against Christians and jews. What I don't understand is everyone can be against christianity but when someone is against Jews as well, you get offended? Even if some of JOS members are nazi sympathizers, so what? Who are you to say what others should believe in and views they should hold. That kind of communist mentality is not part of Satanism.
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communism is an ideology that seeks to establish a classless, stateless social organization based on common ownership of the means of production. it's by no means a brainwashing institution, rather a mere economic strategy. america is capitalistic as cuba is communist (or at least claims to be). since the 1950's, however, it's been mainly used as a propaganda term to inspire hate in americans towards ones americans were conditioned to hate (and perhaps rightfully so).

lol, it was pretty funny come to think about it though. the american leaders would use repeated terms (and they still do this) and hammer them into the publics minds. watch the president speak sometimes...he'll say the same word over and over and anyone that believes in him will automatically start using and believing in those words.

i visited the site that seems to be angering you. it seems to be a personal attack on maxine.
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Do you speak from your personal experience with JOS, obviously not. You just repeat the hypocrisy you heard/read somewhere else. Yes, satanism is based on free thought as far as spirituality goes and they practice just that. Since you're the one with all the accusations of Jos being New Age and corrupt, why don't you put your money where your mouth is and prove it. Otherwise, it's a bunch of hot air coming from just another faceless hypocrite.
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i visited the site. there's quite a bit of fact there, however, quite a bit of mind-numbing passion as well.
[QUOTE=eradark;257464]
JOS don't push their political beliefs on anyone. Who cares what their policical agenda is, I don't.
Anyone that doesn't like JOS satanism are free to leave and lose nothing. But you don't even pay $100 to join unlike other greedy cults you probably belong to. Your problem is that others have to fit your description of what satainsm is. And if they don't, you go online and bullshit about them on the forums like these. You fit the description of a christian hypocrite, nothing more, nothing less.
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i visited the site and inquired about the ritual. i was told by several it was a lifetime commitment.

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Original post: Raal

Arent substitute emotions amusing? "Communism, Holocaust and this or that "group" or "political party"! It means not your own ones but those that result from getting worked up about things you merely heard about from history or the media or other indirect transmissions.

There is no truth in a fake life. lol

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Original post: eradark

No they are a cult which is why if you say anything against the big bad maxine you get labeled a jew.

So you do speak from your experience.

When it reaches the thousand petal lotus(that's crown in new age thought) enlightenment is acheived.

The original name for the crown chakra is Sahasrara which literalily means the same thing. New Age doesn't apply here.

All of that garbage about superpowers is purely new age and so is the rainbow chakras and those retarted meditations which have terrible side effects such as oversleeping, paranoia, and general brainwashing altogether.
Source: The serpent power: Secrets of the Tantric and Shaktic yoga by Arthur Avalon.

Actually the rainbow or colored chakras have been present in yoga since it first made appearance in the West. There's a book from 1920's by C.W. Leadbeater which confirms just that.

Retarded meditations? Now that's really profound. Obviously you don't know a squat otherwise you'd know that meditation serves as a ballancing factor for each chakra. For most people it is necessary to meditate before and after the openings. Claiming meditation causes paranoia, oversleeping or other nonsense?:rolleyes: Now that is a New Age made-up bullshit mostly found in useless health magazines. It's speculation at best.

As well all of the "magic" is purely garbage and doesn't work as it lacks the very basic knowledge of how magic works in the first place. I mean com'on her banishing ritual is merely putting two sigils on the side of the altar and for some retarted reason she thinks enochian is the language of demons. Neither of those statements are correct by any stretch of the imagination.
Source: Book 4 Liber ABA

How do you know what works for them and what does not? You certainly sound like you know everything about JOS. You read bs and swollow it like butter.

I do as I'm not a nazi and the last thing I want to hear is someone associating the two. As well national socialism and satanism don't fit together in any sense of the imagination. If so prove it.

The African American Satanic Church group and the Brazillian group are part of JOS. Both have nothing to do with nazism. I never wrote natinal socialism and satanism mix together but you put words in my mouth which I never said. A typical Christian defense.

Instead the JOS manipulates it's members who are very stupid mind you into giving donations as it is the only way your high priest can survive. Morons send plenty of cash to her everyday as she slowly brainwashes them while saying,"You donations are really helping"

Yet another bs you read somewhere online by some loser(s) who got either kicked out of JOS or envy their success.

3. Jews stole everything, jews have all the power, jews have all the money, and anything that can be said negatively about the jews.

They're pretty much against Judeo-christianity and expose both Judaism/christianitiy for what they are/have been throughout history. The funny thing is that you're so intrigued by it that you spend all this time online bashing JOS with senseless, laughable accusations. Get a life!

At the end YOU are the hypocrite who knows nothing about what he's saying.

Sure bud, you're the one with all the knowledge. So where is your cult at? Remember, you're the one who knows everything but haven't done anything productive for Satanism except ramble and bitch about nonsense, gossip and other bullshit.

I'm not a member of the CoS but I am thinking about it.

You should deffinately join. There's more sheep like yourself that await you!

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Original post: Satanic One

So you do speak from your experience.

More on the line of observation

The original name for the crown chakra is Sahasrara which literalily means the same thing. New Age doesn't apply here.

Wow you are stupid. It means thousand spoken in sandskrit as it is the thousand petal lotus. Yes crown chakra is new age. Here's a dictionary for sanskrit if you don't believe me.
http://webapps.uni-koeln.de/tamil/

Actually the rainbow or colored chakras have been present in yoga since it first made appearance in the West. There's a book from 1920's by C.W. Leadbeater which confirms just that.

Notice the lack of a name for the book. As well you claim "in yoga since it first made appearance in the west" as in NEW AGE MOVEMENT. The original tantric text do not mention any rainbow which is where Sir John Woodroffe/Arthur Avalon obtained his information.

Oh and the guy you mentioned was part of the Theosophical Society, if you don't know what they are then you really are stupid to site a guy who was part of it.

Retarded meditations? Now that's really profound.

Just like your i.q.

Obviously you don't know a squat otherwise you'd know that meditation serves as a ballancing factor for each chakra. For most people it is necessary to meditate before and after the openings.

Uh no it doesn't. Meditation has many purposes and balancing chakras isn't one of them. If your chakras need balancing then you really are into new age. As well chakras open up through kundalini rises NOT though special meditations which all come out of new age books. True there are chakra meditations which correspond to sanskrit letters but they aren't for opening them.

Claiming meditation causes paranoia, oversleeping or other nonsense?:rolleyes: Now that is a New Age made-up bullshit mostly found in useless health magazines. It's speculation at best.

Yeah I've tried those meditations and THAT IS what happened.

Oh and did you know the original chakra opening meditations were taken directly from a book(mind mastery meditation) while the new ones just have norse runes added to them?. You know she does say "Assazel leads me to the right books".

How do you know what works for them and what does not? You certainly sound like you know everything about JOS.

Well the ex-high priest dann knows everything. I know what I've see. Oh and notice how you tried in no way to discredit the source of which was written by the Great Beast. Are you saying he's wrong?

You read bs and swollow it like butter

You shouldn't talk to yourself it's annoying.

The African American Satanic Church group and the Brazillian group are part of JOS. Both have nothing to do with nazism. I never wrote natinal socialism and satanism mix together but you put words in my mouth which I never said. A typical Christian defense.

Then why does this group exist?
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Black_Power_Satanism/

Nazism is so deeply rooted into the jos system that to not be a nazi and follow it is shows you clear lack of understanding. That's why the blacksun site exist which glorifies national socialism as satanism and jew hating out of the retarted new world order paranoia.
http://www.666blacksun.com/Main.html

Your the only one with a christian defense here. The defense that ignores all evidence and relies on faith.

Yet another bs you read somewhere online by some loser(s) who got either kicked out of JOS or envy their success.

Notice your lack of a real arguement other than saying you don't believe it. Of anything the Jos envies the success of the jews.

They're pretty much against Judeo-christianity and expose both Judaism/christianitiy for what they are/have been throughout history.

Then why is the national socialist movement and everything else they preach comes from christian sources. The jews rule the world is from the articles of zion which was written by a paranoid nazi christian.

The funny thing is that you're so intrigued by it that you spend all this time online bashing JOS with senseless, laughable accusations. Get a life!

Considering you went through the trouble of signing up to a message board to defend them you must have a lot of free time. As for bashing the jos that's five minutes, maybe less as it's so easy.

Sure bud, you're the one with all the knowledge. So where is your cult at?

Only retards start cults because they have a need for attention and a need to feel special just like andrea herrington.

Remember, you're the one who knows everything but haven't done anything productive for Satanism except ramble and bitch about nonsense, gossip and other bullshit.

So you claim to know me personally? Better yet what have YOU done for satanism? I know you propagate national socialism under the geist of satanism but that's not good for satanism at all.

You should deffinately join. There's more sheep like yourself that await you!

Sheep I think not. Now the Jos which is filled with idiot kids who do anything to please the msg junkie maxine is full of sheep.

You claim I should stop listening to stuff on the net when you eat up the first thing you read. Do yourself a favor learn to disconcern real knowledge from fictional crap. Oh and notice how you mentioned nothing about Stitchin books.

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Original post: natas666

wow things are getting heated lol

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Original post: hendo555666

http://www.666blacksun.com/

That realy is disgusting!!!

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Original post: hendo555666

Oh heres an interesting little site,love the music;)

http://www.johnnyleeclary.com/nsm.htm

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Original post: hendo555666

Oh and another:

http://www.johnnyleeclary.com/crazywifeofherrington.htm

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Original post: eradark

[QUOTE=hendo555666;257683]Oh and another:

http://www.johnnyleeclary.com/crazywifeofherrington.htm[/QUOTE]

That page was made by Rev. Johnny Lee Clary who is a hardcore christian. Notice "Rev" You moron! What other judeo-christian lies and bullshit links are you going to post?

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Original post: eradark

double post.

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Original post: eradark

Wow you are stupid. It means thousand spoken in sandskrit as it is the thousand petal lotus. Yes crown chakra is new age. Here's a dictionary for sanskrit if you don't believe me.
http://webapps.uni-koeln.de/tamil/

Now, are you that dumb not to notice that word "crown" is used in the west so it's easily recognizable by English speaking people who know nothing of Sanskrit. The Chinese probably have a different word for it to fit their dictionary. You are really shallow minded.

Notice the lack of a name for the book. As well you claim "in yoga since it first made appearance in the west" as in NEW AGE MOVEMENT. The original tantric text do not mention any rainbow which is where Sir John Woodroffe/Arthur Avalon obtained his information.

Get off your couch and search for it. I'm sure you'll find his writings which predate Arthur Woodroffe (who wrote his book in 1970's). Because the former author's book was written in 1927. It doesn't make it New Age. Furthermore the author did his research pretty well, most likely the colored chakras were used long before New Age movement appeared in 20th century.

Oh and the guy you mentioned was part of the Theosophical Society, if you don't know what they are then you really are stupid to site a guy who was part of it.

So that makes him "new age" ? now that's stupid.

Just like your i.q.

Yep, looks like you failed the i.q test and substitute knowledge and logic with bullshit which you keep spouting. It's good for the ego, isn't it?.

Uh no it doesn't. Meditation has many purposes and balancing chakras isn't one of them. If your chakras need balancing then you really are into new age. As well chakras open up through kundalini rises NOT though special meditations which all come out of new age books. True there are chakra meditations which correspond to sanskrit letters but they aren't for opening them.

Now you're saying that meditation has an actual purpose. Aren't you contradicting what you wrote earlier? This is like arguing with a child, they tell you something is not correct but they don't tell you why. In this case, you're the big dumb kid that will argue for the sake of arguing without proving it. In defense of your lame responses you blame everything on New Age. Laughable!

Yeah I've tried those meditations and THAT IS what happened.

Another contradiction. Maybe you failed because you don't know what you're doing juding from what you say. You don't know what you're talking about to begin with. No suprises.

Nazism is so deeply rooted into the jos system that to not be a nazi and follow it is shows you clear lack of understanding. That's why the blacksun site exist which glorifies national socialism as satanism and jew hating out of the retarted new world order paranoia.
http://www.666blacksun.com/Main.html

The black Sun is a sub-group. It is totally separate from JOS. Yep, they glorify national socialism. Nice to see your brain works at times. Btw, you seem on the defense of Jews so much, maybe it's because you're a Jew deep inside? You sympathize with the very root of Christianity yet you pose as a satanist. This is your true nature. Keep hiding behind the mask coward.

Notice your lack of a real arguement other than saying you don't believe it. Of anything the Jos envies the success of the jews.

Now that's really moronic. It doesn't suprise me, coming from a Jew posing as a Satanist.

Then why is the national socialist movement and everything else they preach comes from christian sources. The jews rule the world is from the articles of zion which was written by a paranoid nazi christian.

While some do come from Christian sources, many don't. Apparently you don't know much regarding Politcs. It doesn't suprise me as you don't know much in general. Read between the lines you brainwashed moron.

Considering you went through the trouble of signing up to a message board to defend them you must have a lot of free time. As for bashing the jos that's five minutes, maybe less as it's so easy.

No trouble at all. I just joined to shed some light on hypocrisy you and other like-minded morons keep navigating about.

Only retards start cults because they have a need for attention and a need to feel special just like andrea herrington.

Only retards join them. But there's a need for mindless losers like you who stumble upon satanic bible at a Tower music and need a cult to accept them. Cos is full of them. I'm sure you'll fit in very well.

Better yet what have YOU done for satanism? I know you propagate national socialism under the geist of satanism but that's not good for satanism at all.

I have done plenty for satanism, spreading christian lies about others while hiding behind a computer is not one of them.

Sheep I think not. Now the Jos which is filled with idiot kids who do anything to please the msg junkie maxine is full of sheep.

It beats the cults you're about to join, filled with old social rejects of the lowest order. Retarded sheeple who use satan for shock value but really are warm hearted atheists/christians.

You claim I should stop listening to stuff on the net when you eat up the first thing you read. Do yourself a favor learn to disconcern real knowledge from fictional crap.

You finally defined your problem and even found a solution to it. How about putting it to practice, loser.

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Original post: eradark

I realize that whatever I say will only serve as spring board for other arguments which don't get anywhere. I didn't mean to insult or call names and I think I stepped too far when debate heated up. Anyone who I might have offended, I apologize. It wasn't my intention. Although we have our differences, we're here to discuss the occult in a civil way instead of stepping on each other's toes, fighting over who's right. I will not continue with this thread so I depart. Have a nice night.

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Original post: hendo555666

[QUOTE=eradark;257714]That page was made by Rev. Johnny Lee Clary who is a hardcore christian. Notice "Rev" You moron! What other judeo-christian lies and bullshit links are you going to post?[/QUOTE]

So that makes it unreliable does it!!The pictures are all there, proving exactly what your excuse for an orgenization stands for,it doesnt matter if its by a jew, christian, muslim or satanist!!

But i take your hat off to you, you are man enough to apologise, welcome to OF.com:)

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Original post: Skeptismo118

I'm sure you'll find his writings which predate Arthur Woodroffe (who wrote his book in 1970's).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arthur_Avalon

Why doesn't this website have a rabbit with a pancake "Smiley" damnit...it might help to make these douchechills stop...