Starting your own Satanic Grimoire

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Original post: AJAtheMetastasis

For the record................. When I spoke of an personal Grimoire; I was speaking in the context of an individualized personal journey into life experience. I don't see how this is re-inventing the wheel since it is a (personal) endeavor we're speaking of here. Who knows, mayhaps I'm wrong. All written material is simply a guide-line, a starting-point; hopefully this (point) can be agreed upon by all in this thread. I hope to have as many (points) of view presented for the benifit of all Satanist/Luciferians. Like basic construction of the Grimoire, it's content, mythological data, mayhaps mystical exercises, etc. Anything - one feels should go into a Grimoire proper. *On a side-note: I am growing concerned with the indirect & subtle threats I've witnessed in several threads by various individuals who have certain responsiblities to the Forum. Why? Is this to be the norm from here on out? I truly hope not. I have always enjoyed the freedom this Forum has provided it's members.......... Let not this freedom be tarnished in any fashion........ Please. Reputo vestrum mortalitas meus amicus. this simple meditation has always kept me somewhat on the humble side. Hopefully it will help others who feel they're above their fellow man.

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Original post: GotNoSoul2Sell

*On a side-note: I am growing concerned with the indirect & subtle threats I've witnessed in several threads by various individuals who have certain responsiblities to the Forum. Why?

You know, I was thinking the same thing. Got a little hostile there for a minute.

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Original post: m1thr0s

M1thr0s I agree on satanism forum there should be more freedom to discuss various subjects and moderators indeed have greaters danger to "over-moderate" right on this section but don't forget in the end you "kiss ass" of those who run this forum and made rules (not me) That's the least you can do to respect those folks who enable us to talk over great distances and debate on different matters don't you agree?

Since you have asked I will tell you that my answer is NO - I definitely do NOT agree with ass-kissing on any level. Respecting and cow-towing are quite separate matters in my view. Perhaps an issue of this sort would better be taken up privately. Please feel free to PM me if you like. Thus far WAY more off-topic time has been taken up by moderators than members in this immediate thread. My original comment was directed at members with the intent in mind of encouraging a less timid responses and that is all. It amounted to a single sentence and the rest of my comment was completely on-track. If moderators feel their authority is being challenged, that really is their own perception and personal problem. Most Satanists are quite adept at policing themselves even if they do play a bit rougher than your average fluff-bunnies...I will be happy to discuss this point further in private if you like.

When I spoke of an personal Grimoire; I was speaking in the context of an individualized personal journey into life experience. I don't see how this is re-inventing the wheel since it is a (personal) endeavor we're speaking of here. Who knows, mayhaps I'm wrong.

That is precisely how I understood your question as well. I am not sure how reinventing the wheel enters into this either but I DO know that the LHP is uniquely in the moment. Because of this fact there may tend to be a much higher incidence of breaking with historical traditions and pioneering new ways of doing things and/or looking at things. This is all part and parcel with the spirit of rebellion which is really a responsibility accepted by LHP practitioners in the main. New developments in human understanding (genetics may be a good example of this) typically force these kinds of revisions and it's a damn good thing that somebody is willing to take up this kind of challenge...it's the only way "tradition" ever really moves forward in time...

m1thr0s

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Original post: Lord Ruthven

Ah, I see what you mean AJAtM. A personal grimoire is, I am sure, a valuable thing to write at a certain point in magical development. A way to fix in your mind your progress so far and what needs to be done.

However, I do not feel I have reached that point yet, although I do intend to start writing a magical journal pretty soon - which amounts to something very similar to what you are discussing.

I apologise for my misunderstanding.

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Original post: AJAtheMetastasis

I guess I'll get the ball rolling here! My personal Grimoire starts with a basic out-line of what ritual items that will be used throughout my entire book. Following this, there a several chapters describing individual rituals. Some of these are seasonal rites, others are sorcery rites. Other chapters contain personal insights upon the path; for later reflection of course!

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Original post: frater luciferi

i find a personal grimoire a necessity. It is imperitive to have a more solid form of which relays how your system of magick has developed. If it is purely a synthesis of and a repetition of older systems? It would hardly be a necessity. However throughout the expierience of magick and result I have found that most systems need a sort of retuning towards my own internal paradigm as far as relation to the outter macrocosm. Perhaps this is a sort of chaos mage type of methodology, however a great deal of magickal systems that exist currently are flawed, or arm chair mage material/purely scholarly.

the ego involved within a creation of a societal method of magick is by far going to relate entirely between the bodie of those in practicum and is not neccesarily to facilitate in any manner a true magick either. Therein lyes the difficulty? As within luciferianism, the faith itself is one of exploratory methods of definition and finding a sense of "awareness" in relation to the connectivity of the micro and macrocosm. If it is one of active involvement, perhaps it should be one of an active journal of results and methodologies brewed from the initial materials- in a sort of alchemal process of straining out the pure elements so to speak.

I myself use particular methodologys in the attainment of spiritual "power" and confluence over the flows and patterns of the paradigmal mrror of which i am as most of us are subject to throughout the furthering of time. If it is one of adaptation of theorum towards a more eccentric practice and or path, it would be neccessary to develop a path/grimoire of which to gauge and record the results of the said "experiment" involved in the push outwards from the intitial seed of intent and reaction upon the cosmos.