Would you place more trust in a stranger with beliefs?

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Would you place more trust in a stranger with beliefs?

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Versus no beliefs at all that is.

I am listening to the BBC, they are discussing the recent change in beliefs, more people saying they are athiest. There has been a saying passed around in many forms for at least a few generations.
Never trust a man who believes in nothing/who does not believe in god.
Now I can see the reason for saying such a thing, perhaps originally it was stated by a religion in support of itself however to me, I believe it is more stating you should not trust a person whom has no belief in an afterlife or belief in something higher which gives them incentive (for whatever reason) to "behave" and act decently. Better the devil you know?

What do you think? Given the way the world is today, would you be more likely to trust a stranger with beliefs over one without? (Or do you have no bias at all?)
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Human decency is not derived from religion. It precedes it.

―God Is Not Great,Christopher Hitchens.
I do not agree with the statement you quoted.

We do not require a fear of something greater than us judging us or punishing us to be capable of decent and ethical behaviour.That is what lies at the root of this statement and other such similar quotes.
The belief that a man or woman with no masters cannot master himself or herself and the fear of loss of self control that is used to keep the faithful in line, has been a successful propaganda tool for a very long time.

I have no bias in the regard of trusting others,other than how they are reacting in a currently ongoing situation.
I'm less inclined to trust someone who is panicky or who is unusually flat in emotional response,for instance,in a crisis led scenario,than I am to consider obvious signs of religion/religious faith.
And If my leg is broken I need a doctor more than a priest,though any prayers or good wishes I may receive are welcome too,I 'd rather have a competent medic every time.

I can also think of several scenarios where I 'd be negatively biased towards religious types,though.Sometimes faith in an afterlife can stop folk from trying to survive at all costs regarding an acceptance of death based on afterlife expectations.I wouldn't want to be stuck in a foxhole with one or more of those people.
"He lived his words, spoke his own actions and his story and the story of the world ran parallel."

Sartre speaking of Che Guevara.

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I am referring in general to those with any belief, be it Shinto to Shamanism, Buddhism to Budo Taijutsu.

Alas, I do confess I have little faith in people as individuals or as a group and find the majority whom act in the best interests of others when given a chance to, usually have a belief of some kind, even if it is a firm acknowledged belief in themselves.
Given the propensity for the mind to believe in something, I guess one could also reason that the mind may naturally rest in the belief that the world is not a relatively nice place and perhaps that can justify the poor behaviour by so many people. Food for thought. Some kind of belief may be displacing such thoughts.

Of course, if I required the services of a professional, I would gladly accept their services without a second thought and would not deny them based on their beliefs.

Just food for thought and an apparent observation in the area in which I reside.
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Vulpecula,

Faith or the idea that you live on after death can help in raising your vibrational level passed that of your first incarnation, if you don't understand or follow that your soul can and will live on then you can damn your soul.

Fear not those that can harm the body, but fear those that can destory the soul.

The ideals on agenda of the world elite is to seperate those that have from those that have not to the extream, for creating an over balance helps those that understand what is going on to raise their vibrational level. This is being done through so many levels, and I would like to go into detail.

I will try and make a video to explain it.

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I trust my friends, that is, those I choose to give my loyalty to. Currently I have only one atheist friend. So, to answer the question, no. I choose to place trust based on my faith on the individual.

That said, I find that many atheists are hard to deal with, when they make atheism the "reason of their lives" and want to "preach". But on the same fashion, I'd have problems becoming friends with Christians and the like, too.

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hi etar can we be friends lol as you all know im satanic lol. i dont necassarily practice as others more spiritual ground such as a bielife practiced every day NO REWARD NO SURRENDAR. we are emerging into a day of human rights with in question of concern where and how did you obtain these rights. bieliefe is just that a justifiable right. voices said one day if i can do it it will be done and it will be good. one day they broke the rules lol. justifing the greed for power finding and obtaining rights but earth rights human rights so forth rape the land upon these rights then withdraw from the sworn oaths. ex progressing tech in the city then every city while raping the victoms spiritually then withdrawing gaining much faith and rights.

bielife is very strange reminds me of the history of the spear of desting where kings said to their people we will win thiss war for we have the spear of destiny. or joan of ark relying on total bieliefe but because others bielieved in her the country was freed, one of the few women leading an army as well as schizophrenic like me.

there is seperation religious bielive athiest trust or athiest proof such as scientific reasoning. sure would love to know the witchcraft seperation.

positive thinking i bielieve i can do this hope honor loyalty many approaches.

we as human species thrive on competting with our fellow man keeping up with the jonses you might say. wont always be like that in days of world peace robots and clones a world of equality a world very far from know where to compete one may have to edit as children dna illness out of them so as to compete in the work force. saw a movie about it was real good.

as a witch i would love your answers of how a witch treats keeping up with the jonses i however suspect bielife is a big part of it

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